Japan vs YouTube - Page 2

**Shirogetsu** · 12-23-2006

Yes the term means nothing coming from me because all I do is watch subbed anime and say people who do the same thing are cheap fucks even though I'm being a hypocrite. You entire post screams FUNimation, 3 episodes a DVD for DBZ? Even I find that outragous for like... 200 episodes or something.

EDIT: Also ADV films do the same thing. NGE anyone?

**Raven** · 12-23-2006

[quote user="The Catalyst"]Yes the term means nothing coming from me because all I do is watch subbed anime and say people who do the same thing are cheap fucks even though I'm being a hypocrite. You entire post screams FUNimation, 3 episodes a DVD for DBZ? Even I find that outragous for like... 200 episodes or something.

EDIT: Also ADV films do the same thing. NGE anyone?
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The last time I looked on the FMA site, each dvd was somewhere around $25 and there are several dvds unless there's a box set with a super low price... That's the reason people watch fan subs but people will watch them anyway since it's available to them and any anime fan on this forum probably has in the past too. I too watch fan subs, but for a series I like, I'll buy the series. Not because I feel it's wrong to watch fan subs, but because I believe having DVD's is better and I'll have it available to me at all times.

Prince Vegeta · 12-23-2006

[quote user="The Catalyst"]Yes the term means nothing coming from me because all I do is watch subbed animeanime and say people who do the same thing are cheap fucks even though I'm being a hypocrite. You entire post scrFUNimationFUNimation, 3 episodes a DVD for DBZ? Even I outragous outragous for like... 200 episodes or something.

EDIT: Also ADV films do the same thing. NGE anyone?
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Be a hypocrite if you will, but please improve your grammar.

SaiyajinPerfection · 12-23-2006

[quote user="Prince Vegeta"]Most people watch it online because they don't want to pay for it, or they don't think it's worth the money. That's primarily why most of us love youtube. You can basically watch free anime episodes.
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So? You don't have to pay for it (only cable fees) when you watch it on TV either, but they don't do anything about that. I got two of my videos (that I created) removed and my account was terminated, even though I credited the company inside the description of the video. And no, it isn't worth the money to only see three or four episodes for 20 bucks, plus most of the time, you've already seen the eps on TV or somewhere else. For me, the YouTube anime opportunity is like a car dealership, I don't want to buy a car unless I know how it drives.
And YouTube is crap now, Google's done a good job at that. [rolleyes]

**Shirogetsu** · 12-23-2006

[quote user="Prince Vegeta"][quote user="The Catalyst"]Yes the term means nothing coming from me because all I do is watch subbed animeanime and say people who do the same thing are cheap fucks even though I'm being a hypocrite. You entire post scrFUNimationFUNimation, 3 episodes a DVD for DBZ? Even I outragous outragous for like... 200 episodes or something.

EDIT: Also ADV films do the same thing. NGE anyone?
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Be a hypocrite if you will, but please improve your grammar.

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Why do I say the same thing like... twice a few times in your quote, because in my post there isn't one error at all. o_0

JerrodDRagon · 12-23-2006

And now that the Wii can allow you to go on the Web, I can watch You Tube in my room on my TV making me love You Tube evern more.

Prince Vegeta · 12-23-2006

[quote user="The Catalyst"][quote user="Prince Vegeta"][quote user="The Catalyst"]Yes the term means nothing coming from me because all I do is watch subbed animeanimeand say people who do the same thing are cheap fucks even though I'm being a hypocrite. You entire post scrFUNimationFUNimationcrFUNimationFUNimation, 3 episodes outragous outragous Ioutragous outragousfor like... 200 episodes or something.

EDIT: Also ADV films do the same thing. NGE anyone?
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Be a hypocrite if you will, but please improve your grammar.

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Why do I say the same thing like... twice a few times in your quote, because in my post there isn't one error at all. o_0
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I guess you're right.

But whatever, let's just forget our little skirmish and get back on topic. I am sad that Youtube has removed the funimation liscensed anime series.

elisaQ · 12-23-2006

I agree, I, too, am sad that this has happened. I guess they don't consider the legion of fans around the world who enjoy watching these episodes on YouTube. They are watched because there are true fans out there enjoying these episodes, not a bunch of cheap bastards taking advantage of someone else's work, although I'm sure they are out there, too. It is because of this service that DVDs are purchased later if one chooses too, like me. Well, we all know what the real issue here is... the almighty dollar. Oh well, I guess I'll have to get my fix elsewhere. Anybody got any suggestions?

**Raven** · 12-23-2006

[quote user="elisaQ"]I agree, I, too, am sad that this has happened. I guess they don't consider the legion of fans around the world who enjoy watching these episodes on YouTube. They are watched because there are true fans out there enjoying these episodes, not a bunch of cheap bastards taking advantage of someone else's work, although I'm sure they are out there, too. It is because of this service that DVDs are purchased later if one chooses too, like me. Well, we all know what the real issue here is... the almighty dollar. Oh well, I guess I'll have to get my fix elsewhere. Anybody got any suggestions?

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Check out a site called mininova.org
I see the bigger problem being that many people use youtube to sample anime episodes and then buy what they like. By cutting those videos off, they might have hurt their sales in the future and that's about all I have to say for now...

**LegendarySSJ7** · 12-23-2006

I'll be blunt... this was to be expected in my view, no less, the second Google made off to purchasing YouTube. What with the repetoire of 'illegal' videos residing YouTube and the sea of users and the good tidings as things are, that Japan's gaze parted and fell to dealing away with just about every full episode of certain animes (and what have you) under the sun and anything of the such. I only have one contestion - that FUNimation overprice their DVDs nonwithstanding for only 3-4 episodes (as much as I indubitably love the original Japanese tracks/subtitles), but... truth be told, the quality and fidelity is still immensely higher on the DVDs (Adobe Flash Player 9 on YouTube by comparison, which is apparently no place near).

But I'm not a denizen to see these events in question as equally stupefying as some have, on a parting note.

Nirvana Phoenix · 12-23-2006

NOOOOOO! They can't get rid of YouTube's illegal videos, how else can I watch classic Digimon or X-Men.
Uhhh I mean (in emotionless voice) Yes, pircy is a crime and all priated videos should be removed from YouTube
Government agent: You've done well, kid. We'll let your family live.
Joking by the way, I know the Government would never do that. If videos were removed from YouTube, people would find some other way for the masses to get their fix.

JerrodDRagon · 12-24-2006

[quote user="Nirvana Phoenix"] NOOOOOO! They can't get rid of YouTube's illegal videos, how else can I watch classic Digimon or X-Men.
Uhhh I mean (in emotionless voice) Yes, pircy is a crime and all priated videos should be removed from YouTube
Government agent: You've done well, kid. We'll let your family live.
Joking by the way, I know the Government would never do that. If videos were removed from YouTube, people would find some other way for the masses to get their fix.
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Yep If You Tube went down then another site (live Digtal or Bolt or some other site) would be the next hot spot.

SaiyajinPerfection · 12-24-2006

[quote user="Raven"] [quote user="elisaQ"]I agree, I, too, am sad that this has happened. I guess they don't consider the legion of fans around the world who enjoy watching these episodes on YouTube. They are watched because there are true fans out there enjoying these episodes, not a bunch of cheap bastards taking advantage of someone else's work, although I'm sure they are out there, too. It is because of this service that DVDs are purchased later if one chooses too, like me. Well, we all know what the real issue here is... the almighty dollar. Oh well, I guess I'll have to get my fix elsewhere. Anybody got any suggestions?

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Check out a site called mininova.org
I see the bigger problem being that many people use youtube to sample anime episodes and then buy what they like. By cutting those videos off, they might have hurt their sales in the future and that's about all I have to say for now...
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I totally agree Raven, YouTube is where I got into Bleach and stuff. I wouldn't buy the stuff now if it Hadn't been for youtube. In the end, Japan's little "abstruct all anime AMVs, episodes, and Episode clips" raid will only hurt themselves. Not as many people will by the merchendise, because cable can only show you so much, the internet is limitless.
I think it was stupid how they are also removing AMVs. Two of mine got removed, and my account was terminated. Oh well, I don't really go to YouTube to watch that stuff anymore, I've kinda given up on watching episodes, mangas are more my taste anyway.

JerrodDRagon · 12-25-2006

Ive had 2 accounts deleted bcuase I had AMV's on my channel, which is BS since I dont think any Manga creator woukd care if I made a trribute to there story.

SaiyajinPerfection · 12-25-2006

[quote user="JerrodDRagon"]Ive had 2 accounts deleted bcuase I had AMV's on my channel, which is BS since I dont think any Manga creator woukd care if I made a trribute to there story.[/quote]
Agree, and even when you upload the vids it says to not upload copyrighted material unless it consisted of content that you created yourself. Doesn't AMVs go into that catagory of content created yourself? (To an extent at least). To my best understanding, they do.
And the stupid thing is they remove them even if you credit the company who produced the anime or the original author of the mangas. I credited all those people on my videos, including the artists and companies that licensed the songs in the videos, and my videos still got removed. No wonder YouTube sucks, even when you credit the stuff, it's considered copyright infingment.
And the ironic part of it is that Japan isn't doing anything to other sites about it, only YouTube. what about AMV.org? Shouldn't Japan go after them as well? And those people are worse then YouTube when it comes to the (in question) copyrighted material, considering all of their videos are AMVs.
This world works in strange ways, and it leaves me doing this to my computer screen:

12-23-2006	#16 (permalink)
Shirogetsu No more avatar changes. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Land of Rain Posts: 8,982 Blog Entries: 15 Rep Power: 224	Re: Japan vs YouTube Yes the term means nothing coming from me because all I do is watch subbed anime and say people who do the same thing are cheap fucks even though I'm being a hypocrite. You entire post screams FUNimation, 3 episodes a DVD for DBZ? Even I find that outragous for like... 200 episodes or something. EDIT: Also ADV films do the same thing. NGE anyone? __________________ NO WAI Turoru no Hibi is coming, you'll see.

12-23-2006	#17 (permalink)
Raven Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,980 Rep Power: 39	Re: Japan vs YouTube [quote user="The Catalyst"]Yes the term means nothing coming from me because all I do is watch subbed anime and say people who do the same thing are cheap fucks even though I'm being a hypocrite. You entire post screams FUNimation, 3 episodes a DVD for DBZ? Even I find that outragous for like... 200 episodes or something. EDIT: Also ADV films do the same thing. NGE anyone? [/quote] The last time I looked on the FMA site, each dvd was somewhere around $25 and there are several dvds unless there's a box set with a super low price... That's the reason people watch fan subs but people will watch them anyway since it's available to them and any anime fan on this forum probably has in the past too. I too watch fan subs, but for a series I like, I'll buy the series. Not because I feel it's wrong to watch fan subs, but because I believe having DVD's is better and I'll have it available to me at all times. __________________ Favorite Quotes: "Everyone dies, it's a natural part of life. But if your life has no meaning you're already dead." -Wolf's Rain, Kiba "Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost." -Fullmetal Alchemist, Alphonse Elric "It's not what folks say...it's what you answer to." -Madea Movie, Madea "Deploying resilience is more important than being a prodigy." -Life, Me

12-23-2006	#19 (permalink)
SaiyajinPerfection (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Not where you are Posts: 1,453 Blog Entries: 10 Rep Power: 22	Re: Japan vs YouTube [quote user="Prince Vegeta"]Most people watch it online because they don't want to pay for it, or they don't think it's worth the money. That's primarily why most of us love youtube. You can basically watch free anime episodes. [/quote] So? You don't have to pay for it (only cable fees) when you watch it on TV either, but they don't do anything about that. I got two of my videos (that I created) removed and my account was terminated, even though I credited the company inside the description of the video. And no, it isn't worth the money to only see three or four episodes for 20 bucks, plus most of the time, you've already seen the eps on TV or somewhere else. For me, the YouTube anime opportunity is like a car dealership, I don't want to buy a car unless I know how it drives. And YouTube is crap now, Google's done a good job at that. [rolleyes] __________________ Formerly the member demonkingpiccolo "Let's put a SMILE on that face!" REP OWED: Madness, Madness, Madness, Madness, Frieza the Tyrant, Madness, Madness, SSJBulma, Madness, Madness, Madness, The Green Dragon, Madness....and...oh wait, did I mention Madness?

12-23-2006	#20 (permalink)
Shirogetsu No more avatar changes. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Land of Rain Posts: 8,982 Blog Entries: 15 Rep Power: 224	Re: Japan vs YouTube [quote user="Prince Vegeta"][quote user="The Catalyst"]Yes the term means nothing coming from me because all I do is watch subbed animeanime and say people who do the same thing are cheap fucks even though I'm being a hypocrite. You entire post scrFUNimationFUNimation, 3 episodes a DVD for DBZ? Even I outragous outragous for like... 200 episodes or something. EDIT: Also ADV films do the same thing. NGE anyone? [/quote] Be a hypocrite if you will, but please improve your grammar. [/quote] Why do I say the same thing like... twice a few times in your quote, because in my post there isn't one error at all. o_0 __________________ NO WAI Turoru no Hibi is coming, you'll see.

12-23-2006	#21 (permalink)
JerrodDRagon (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TO Posts: 2,725 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 7	Re: Japan vs YouTube And now that the Wii can allow you to go on the Web, I can watch You Tube in my room on my TV making me love You Tube evern more. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jerroddragon89 ^Request me as a Friend and Well Chat it up (just put on the request MFG, so I know its not spam)

12-23-2006	#23 (permalink)
elisaQ (4) Turtle School Disciple Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	Re: Japan vs YouTube I agree, I, too, am sad that this has happened. I guess they don't consider the legion of fans around the world who enjoy watching these episodes on YouTube. They are watched because there are true fans out there enjoying these episodes, not a bunch of cheap bastards taking advantage of someone else's work, although I'm sure they are out there, too. It is because of this service that DVDs are purchased later if one chooses too, like me. Well, we all know what the real issue here is... the almighty dollar. Oh well, I guess I'll have to get my fix elsewhere. Anybody got any suggestions? __________________ "I Can Do All Things Through Him Who Strengthens Me." Phil. 4:13

12-23-2006	#24 (permalink)
Raven Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,980 Rep Power: 39	Re: Japan vs YouTube [quote user="elisaQ"]I agree, I, too, am sad that this has happened. I guess they don't consider the legion of fans around the world who enjoy watching these episodes on YouTube. They are watched because there are true fans out there enjoying these episodes, not a bunch of cheap bastards taking advantage of someone else's work, although I'm sure they are out there, too. It is because of this service that DVDs are purchased later if one chooses too, like me. Well, we all know what the real issue here is... the almighty dollar. Oh well, I guess I'll have to get my fix elsewhere. Anybody got any suggestions? [/quote] Check out a site called mininova.org I see the bigger problem being that many people use youtube to sample anime episodes and then buy what they like. By cutting those videos off, they might have hurt their sales in the future and that's about all I have to say for now... __________________ Favorite Quotes: "Everyone dies, it's a natural part of life. But if your life has no meaning you're already dead." -Wolf's Rain, Kiba "Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost." -Fullmetal Alchemist, Alphonse Elric "It's not what folks say...it's what you answer to." -Madea Movie, Madea "Deploying resilience is more important than being a prodigy." -Life, Me

12-23-2006	#25 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA. Posts: 2,895 Rep Power: 78	Re: Japan vs YouTube I'll be blunt... this was to be expected in my view, no less, the second Google made off to purchasing YouTube. What with the repetoire of 'illegal' videos residing YouTube and the sea of users and the good tidings as things are, that Japan's gaze parted and fell to dealing away with just about every full episode of certain animes (and what have you) under the sun and anything of the such. I only have one contestion - that FUNimation overprice their DVDs nonwithstanding for only 3-4 episodes (as much as I indubitably love the original Japanese tracks/subtitles), but... truth be told, the quality and fidelity is still immensely higher on the DVDs (Adobe Flash Player 9 on YouTube by comparison, which is apparently no place near). But I'm not a denizen to see these events in question as equally stupefying as some have, on a parting note. __________________

12-23-2006	#26 (permalink)
Nirvana Phoenix (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 376 Rep Power: 4	Re: Japan vs YouTube NOOOOOO! They can't get rid of YouTube's illegal videos, how else can I watch classic Digimon or X-Men. Uhhh I mean (in emotionless voice) Yes, pircy is a crime and all priated videos should be removed from YouTube Government agent: You've done well, kid. We'll let your family live. Joking by the way, I know the Government would never do that. If videos were removed from YouTube, people would find some other way for the masses to get their fix. __________________ Audio from the DBZ Movies UK Dub! You thought FUNimation was bad!

12-24-2006	#27 (permalink)
JerrodDRagon (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TO Posts: 2,725 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 7	Re: Japan vs YouTube [quote user="Nirvana Phoenix"] NOOOOOO! They can't get rid of YouTube's illegal videos, how else can I watch classic Digimon or X-Men. Uhhh I mean (in emotionless voice) Yes, pircy is a crime and all priated videos should be removed from YouTube Government agent: You've done well, kid. We'll let your family live. Joking by the way, I know the Government would never do that. If videos were removed from YouTube, people would find some other way for the masses to get their fix. [/quote] Yep If You Tube went down then another site (live Digtal or Bolt or some other site) would be the next hot spot. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jerroddragon89 ^Request me as a Friend and Well Chat it up (just put on the request MFG, so I know its not spam)

12-24-2006	#28 (permalink)
SaiyajinPerfection (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Not where you are Posts: 1,453 Blog Entries: 10 Rep Power: 22	Re: Japan vs YouTube [quote user="Raven"] [quote user="elisaQ"]I agree, I, too, am sad that this has happened. I guess they don't consider the legion of fans around the world who enjoy watching these episodes on YouTube. They are watched because there are true fans out there enjoying these episodes, not a bunch of cheap bastards taking advantage of someone else's work, although I'm sure they are out there, too. It is because of this service that DVDs are purchased later if one chooses too, like me. Well, we all know what the real issue here is... the almighty dollar. Oh well, I guess I'll have to get my fix elsewhere. Anybody got any suggestions? [/quote] Check out a site called mininova.org I see the bigger problem being that many people use youtube to sample anime episodes and then buy what they like. By cutting those videos off, they might have hurt their sales in the future and that's about all I have to say for now... [/quote] I totally agree Raven, YouTube is where I got into Bleach and stuff. I wouldn't buy the stuff now if it Hadn't been for youtube. In the end, Japan's little "abstruct all anime AMVs, episodes, and Episode clips" raid will only hurt themselves. Not as many people will by the merchendise, because cable can only show you so much, the internet is limitless. I think it was stupid how they are also removing AMVs. Two of mine got removed, and my account was terminated. Oh well, I don't really go to YouTube to watch that stuff anymore, I've kinda given up on watching episodes, mangas are more my taste anyway. __________________ Formerly the member demonkingpiccolo "Let's put a SMILE on that face!" REP OWED: Madness, Madness, Madness, Madness, Frieza the Tyrant, Madness, Madness, SSJBulma, Madness, Madness, Madness, The Green Dragon, Madness....and...oh wait, did I mention Madness?

12-25-2006	#29 (permalink)
JerrodDRagon (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TO Posts: 2,725 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 7	Re: Japan vs YouTube Ive had 2 accounts deleted bcuase I had AMV's on my channel, which is BS since I dont think any Manga creator woukd care if I made a trribute to there story. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jerroddragon89 ^Request me as a Friend and Well Chat it up (just put on the request MFG, so I know its not spam)

12-25-2006	#30 (permalink)
SaiyajinPerfection (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Not where you are Posts: 1,453 Blog Entries: 10 Rep Power: 22	Re: Japan vs YouTube [quote user="JerrodDRagon"]Ive had 2 accounts deleted bcuase I had AMV's on my channel, which is BS since I dont think any Manga creator woukd care if I made a trribute to there story.[/quote] Agree, and even when you upload the vids it says to not upload copyrighted material unless it consisted of content that you created yourself. Doesn't AMVs go into that catagory of content created yourself? (To an extent at least). To my best understanding, they do. And the stupid thing is they remove them even if you credit the company who produced the anime or the original author of the mangas. I credited all those people on my videos, including the artists and companies that licensed the songs in the videos, and my videos still got removed. No wonder YouTube sucks, even when you credit the stuff, it's considered copyright infingment. And the ironic part of it is that Japan isn't doing anything to other sites about it, only YouTube. what about AMV.org? Shouldn't Japan go after them as well? And those people are worse then YouTube when it comes to the (in question) copyrighted material, considering all of their videos are AMVs. This world works in strange ways, and it leaves me doing this to my computer screen: __________________ Formerly the member demonkingpiccolo "Let's put a SMILE on that face!" REP OWED: Madness, Madness, Madness, Madness, Frieza the Tyrant, Madness, Madness, SSJBulma, Madness, Madness, Madness, The Green Dragon, Madness....and...oh wait, did I mention Madness?