Phpbb?

The Electron Zone · 04-16-2008

Questions for Admins:

What did vBulletin offer more than phpbb (in features)?

I was here for a long time and didn't notice that if you guys used phpbb or not. What caused you to switch?

And last question, how similar is phpbb to vBulletin?

I'm asking this because a local football organization asked me to make them a forum.

**Punxx** · 04-16-2008

In fact when MFG first started it was on phpbb, as far as I understand. But that didn't last long and then they went to IPB. I believe the lure of vB is the added security and the features that you can get. As far as I'm aware phpbb is much more basic. Also, most of the major forums use vB so it seems a logical choice.

Ace is better suited to answer this though.

The Electron Zone · 04-16-2008

The cost really doesn't matter. They gave me a rather large budget and used some of it to register a domain name. Is vB paid monthly or all at once.

**Ace** · 04-17-2008

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Originally Posted by The Electron Zone

What did vBulletin offer more than phpbb (in features)?

Many, many things. phpbb was a pretty basic forum -- back when we were using it, anyway.

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Originally Posted by The Electron Zone

I was here for a long time and didn't notice that if you guys used phpbb or not. What caused you to switch?

The way it looks was one big thing. The admin side of phpbb was really bad too.

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Originally Posted by The Electron Zone

And last question, how similar is phpbb to vBulletin?

Not very. phpbb = low end, very basic. vBulletin = high end, very fancy.

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Originally Posted by The Electron Zone

I'm asking this because a local football organization asked me to make them a forum.

I can definitely recommend vB. We also used Invision Power Board for a while, and Community Server. Invision was OK, but had (has) some serious security problems.

The Electron Zone · 04-17-2008

How bad security problems?

**Ace** · 04-18-2008

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Originally Posted by The Electron Zone

How bad security problems?

It's always changing, but when we were using it, IPB's security problems were bad enough that we got hacked, posts were deleted, stuff was lost/damaged. That was the main reason we moved to CS, which was always 100% secure. vB has been excellent that way too. I don't know much about phpbb from the security perspective, but I don't recall hearing anything terribly negative about it.

The Electron Zone · 04-18-2008

Could you list all the software you used and put an asterik next to it. Ideas are bouncing around.

**Raven** · 04-18-2008

You can get an owned license for $160, plus thirty bucks each year for updates.
VB can have much more space than other forums in addition to holding more members and content. Many forums have moved from phpbb to vb due to a change in size. VB to me is the best forum software around, tons of features and great security, great skinning potential as well.

https://www.vbulletin.com/order/

Ultimate_Gohan · 04-18-2008

Well, contrary to popular belief, Php-BB is not as basic as it looks. I'm sure most of you have only seen those basic php-bb 1.0 forums which are indeed very basic. But, having been an admin in both a Php-BB and vBulletin forum, I think that the latest version of Php-BB (v.3) rivals that of vBulletin. Just with a few more mods a php-bb3 can have most (if not all) of the features vBulletin has.

Though, I don't know much about security since that responsibility was another admin's one.

**Manic** · 04-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Ace

It's always changing, but when we were using it, IPB's security problems were bad enough that we got hacked, posts were deleted, stuff was lost/damaged. That was the main reason we moved to CS, which was always 100% secure. vB has been excellent that way too. I don't know much about phpbb from the security perspective, but I don't recall hearing anything terribly negative about it.

Security-wise, this board is many wrungs above what that one was (to me, anyway). I didn't have much of a problem breaking into it. From what I've seen, this host isn't weak to the same methods of session-hijack and script injection. vBulletin's flaws are pretty mundane in comparison, and require extended knowledge (embedding scripts and code directly into JPEG images, and other odd work-arounds) to exploit.

The Electron Zone · 04-18-2008

Which ones are free and ones that are not?

**Manic** · 04-19-2008

Look. If your budget allows, just go with vBulletin. You'll also have the members/admins here to ask if you need help with anything.

The Electron Zone · 04-20-2008

Like I said a lot of it went to registering a domain name. Anyway I looked at IPB and didn't like it. Phpbb has a new version out, and I am still considering vBulletin. But what the hell is CS?

**Punxx** · 04-20-2008

CS is community server. Don't get it, it sucks bad. Only get it if you really want to screw these people around. As Ace said it apparently has potential but the CS team is a bunch of lack witted bums. CS is awful.

Go with vBulletin ... easily the benchmark for good forums.

The Electron Zone · 04-20-2008

So CS is out of the question.

2 Left:
Phpbb (New Phpbb came out)
vBulletin (3.7)

04-16-2008	#1 (permalink)
The Electron Zone Naruto Ranked (24) Gobi Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Bulma's Bedroom Posts: 3,284 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 23	Phpbb? Questions for Admins: What did vBulletin offer more than phpbb (in features)? I was here for a long time and didn't notice that if you guys used phpbb or not. What caused you to switch? And last question, how similar is phpbb to vBulletin? I'm asking this because a local football organization asked me to make them a forum. __________________ SSJBulma's Official Puppy-eyed Teddy Bear

04-16-2008	#2 (permalink)
Punxx Administrator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 3,853 Rep Power: 20	Re: Phpbb? In fact when MFG first started it was on phpbb, as far as I understand. But that didn't last long and then they went to IPB. I believe the lure of vB is the added security and the features that you can get. As far as I'm aware phpbb is much more basic. Also, most of the major forums use vB so it seems a logical choice. Ace is better suited to answer this though. __________________ Much love to Goku for the sig...! \|\| Praise Manic for the sweet avy

04-16-2008	#3 (permalink)
The Electron Zone Naruto Ranked (24) Gobi Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Bulma's Bedroom Posts: 3,284 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 23	Re: Phpbb? The cost really doesn't matter. They gave me a rather large budget and used some of it to register a domain name. Is vB paid monthly or all at once. __________________ SSJBulma's Official Puppy-eyed Teddy Bear

04-17-2008	#5 (permalink)
The Electron Zone Naruto Ranked (24) Gobi Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Bulma's Bedroom Posts: 3,284 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 23	Re: Phpbb? How bad security problems? __________________ SSJBulma's Official Puppy-eyed Teddy Bear

04-18-2008	#7 (permalink)
The Electron Zone Naruto Ranked (24) Gobi Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Bulma's Bedroom Posts: 3,284 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 23	Re: Phpbb? Could you list all the software you used and put an asterik next to it. Ideas are bouncing around. __________________ SSJBulma's Official Puppy-eyed Teddy Bear

04-18-2008	#8 (permalink)
Raven Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,067 Rep Power: 11	Re: Phpbb? You can get an owned license for $160, plus thirty bucks each year for updates. VB can have much more space than other forums in addition to holding more members and content. Many forums have moved from phpbb to vb due to a change in size. VB to me is the best forum software around, tons of features and great security, great skinning potential as well. https://www.vbulletin.com/order/ __________________ Official Anime Collection: Cowboy Bebop The Movie + DVD's 1 - 5 (Remix), Fullmetal Alchemist Season 1 Part 1, Patlabor, Samurai X, Wolf's Rain complete collection, Azumanga Daioh, Serial Experiments Lain, Howl's Moving Castle, Kurau, Weiss Kreuz Gluhen, Kino's Journey, Magical Shopping Arcade: Abenobashi, Gundam Wing complete collection + Endless Waltz, Wolf Brigade, Appleseed, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, and Tokyo Godfathers.

04-18-2008	#9 (permalink)
Ultimate_Gohan Bleach Ranked (25) Vasto Lorde Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Albania Posts: 3,725 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 37	Re: Phpbb? Well, contrary to popular belief, Php-BB is not as basic as it looks. I'm sure most of you have only seen those basic php-bb 1.0 forums which are indeed very basic. But, having been an admin in both a Php-BB and vBulletin forum, I think that the latest version of Php-BB (v.3) rivals that of vBulletin. Just with a few more mods a php-bb3 can have most (if not all) of the features vBulletin has. Though, I don't know much about security since that responsibility was another admin's one. __________________

04-18-2008	#11 (permalink)
The Electron Zone Naruto Ranked (24) Gobi Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Bulma's Bedroom Posts: 3,284 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 23	Re: Phpbb? Which ones are free and ones that are not? __________________ SSJBulma's Official Puppy-eyed Teddy Bear

04-19-2008	#12 (permalink)
Manic Super Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Georgia, US Posts: 1,835 Rep Power: 20	Re: Phpbb? Look. If your budget allows, just go with vBulletin. You'll also have the members/admins here to ask if you need help with anything. __________________

04-20-2008	#13 (permalink)
The Electron Zone Naruto Ranked (24) Gobi Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Bulma's Bedroom Posts: 3,284 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 23	Re: Phpbb? Like I said a lot of it went to registering a domain name. Anyway I looked at IPB and didn't like it. Phpbb has a new version out, and I am still considering vBulletin. But what the hell is CS? __________________ SSJBulma's Official Puppy-eyed Teddy Bear

04-20-2008	#14 (permalink)
Punxx Administrator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 3,853 Rep Power: 20	Re: Phpbb? CS is community server. Don't get it, it sucks bad. Only get it if you really want to screw these people around. As Ace said it apparently has potential but the CS team is a bunch of lack witted bums. CS is awful. Go with vBulletin ... easily the benchmark for good forums. __________________ Much love to Goku for the sig...! \|\| Praise Manic for the sweet avy

04-20-2008	#15 (permalink)
The Electron Zone Naruto Ranked (24) Gobi Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Bulma's Bedroom Posts: 3,284 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 23	Re: Phpbb? So CS is out of the question. 2 Left: Phpbb (New Phpbb came out) vBulletin (3.7) __________________ SSJBulma's Official Puppy-eyed Teddy Bear