Dupe of USSJed

0 sympathy. If someones dumb enough to get hooked on drugs, I don't sympathise in any way. However, this does not apply to drug babies or anything like that, who are born addicted.

__________________

gokusucks

Prostitution is not a moral or worthwhile profession, and I frown upon it as much as you do. However, nothing in the transaction of paying for sex constitutes a crime, and so it should not be illegal.

I'm not saying that it's not their fault if they're drug addicts, but that if they are, it is harder for them to find other, more fulfilling jobs.

__________________
http://tinyurl.com/yslm43

Click the link. It's the right thing to do.

Masked_Felix

[quote=gokusucks;1181254]Prostitution is not a moral or worthwhile profession, and I frown upon it as much as you do. However, nothing in the transaction of paying for sex constitutes a crime, and so it should not be illegal.[/qupte]

If it's not worthwhile, then why pursue it? It's a dead end street that only ends up hurting the people involved, in one form or the other. The practice isn't exactly smiled upon for a reason.


It very well may be harder. However, they dug themselves into a hole, they have to work to get out of it. It's not like there aren't all kinds of programs and people willing to help the recovery process.

__________________

gokusucks

I don't ask why they do it, I just defend their right to do it.

Fair enough. I will concede this point.

However, can anybody provide any reasons why it should continue to be outlawed, when, as I've said earlier, its legalization have brought no major issues to places like Nevada.

__________________
http://tinyurl.com/yslm43

Click the link. It's the right thing to do.

Fred

You all look at the law as if personal moralities should matter, and that's what I think is wrong with the system today. As long as you can do what you want with out hurting people it doesn't concern, it should be illegal, and that's the way I look at it. I don't give a fuck what you do in your spare time as long as it doesn't affect me.

__________________

Raven

Everyone has their problems, it's up to us for how we solve them. It's easy to lay on your back, thus why the porn industry is huge. You don't have to put time in, you don't have to study, but you get what everyone loves, "sex." The same can be said for prostitution. I personally think it should be outlawed because of the HIV/STD situation that can become of it. It's a personal way to say "hey, I have no talents and I'm going to screw my way to a decent life!"

Nothing good can come from ingraining your soul with despair and wasting the valuable life you were given. There are so many things I can think of that would beat prostitution. Unfortunately money speaks volumes and it's one of the properties women place higher than men or so my professor and experience shows me.

When people get greedy it deludes them, call it lamentable enjoyment if you will. They do anything to get it, without realizing the aftershock that has yet to come.

People are greedy and many times too foolish to realize that if you gain everything but it has zilch substance, then it's all for naught. Like snapping gold out of then air, you may as well expect it to turn into chocolate later on. Anything that takes no discipline to acquire, yet provides decent wealth seems to be a hit in the states, at least that's what my third eye tells me so.

I also partly blame this on parenting and spiritual power. Many parents aren't doing their job and as an aftershock, kids are very easily influenced by other kids or adults. They lack will power and transform into sheep, I also relate this to why so many people smoke. They think it's cool and it'll get them somewhere. They have no third eye to analyze and break apart the lamentable calamity they are about to attain. To make matters worse the economy is folding from the inside out.

__________________

Favorite Quotes:
"Everyone dies, it's a natural part of life. But if your life has no meaning you're already dead." -Wolf's Rain, Kiba

"Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost."
-Fullmetal Alchemist, Alphonse Elric

"It's not what folks say...it's what you answer to." -Madea Movie, Madea

"Deploying resilience is more important than being a prodigy." -Life, Me

gokusucks

Agreed.

Yes it is. However, to say that this is wrong contradicts your first sentence.

If prostitution were made legal, it would, as previously said, likely be dealt with in licensed brothels as opposed to street workers, meaning that safety and protection would become more important.

Less good can come of imprisoning those who are found guilty of prostitution. Besides, who are you to decide that they are wasting their lives? Many prostitutes enjoy their work as such, and would not consider it a waste.

For prostitutes who enjoy their work, they cannot think of many better things.

Your conviction is to be admired, but this is ultimately irrelevant.

__________________
http://tinyurl.com/yslm43

Click the link. It's the right thing to do.

Fred

You're all missing the point, I don't see where humanity crossed the lines and decided that one persons morals are greater than another's. What if someone is out on the street, in no danger of getting beaten, contriving a disease, and becoming drug spoiled. What if this person quickly decides "I like fucking and I like money, screw it, lets give it a go." Does this person deserve to go to jail? There's a reason why prostitution isn't illegal in every country, and that's because the separation of Church, individual Morality, and State is not impossible. You have to understand that there are people out there who truly don't give a shit about tieing themselves to sexual restraint and psuedo-governmental morality. I personally think that there is nothing wrong with doing what you want to do as long as you aren't putting anyone who shouldn't be effected by your decision in harm. I understand this can be contradictory in that most prostitutes pass disease off to males who then pass them off to their wives or future partners, but doesn't the blame lie in the fact that a prostitute isn't able to pay her way for a test? Why doesn't she have the money? Because she's not allowed to fucking work.

__________________

gokusucks

I agree with everything in this post.

__________________
http://tinyurl.com/yslm43

Click the link. It's the right thing to do.

Raven

I do apologize for any contradicting statements.

What I'm getting at is that this line of work encourages the same line of work down the road. Kids will follow up and you know that, they copy what is ingrained in their mind.

As for the being greedy part, it's pretty relevant I think. People love to attain what is easily acquired.

For the comment about them not wasting their lives, maybe you're right about it being their choice. I still disdain the character it imposes on the more "less spirited" people. It's not what should be encouraged (personally) and it's on the negative side of the rainbow (imo). You don't accidentally "assault people with a deadly weapon" if you go to school (technical or university) and get a degree in something. I just plain out disagree with it, for moral reasons and others.

It is definitely true that women drag themselves into these situations, as it seems their self esteem is quite low but I still think it's more wrong than right and as the saying goes, (my saying) you can't solve a problem by layering it with another problem.

It's cool to defend their rights, but tell me three good things it can do for you besides getting you put in jail and you being "freed" from your sins in the first place? Maybe then I can bring myself around to your view of the field.

It's true that one's moral code doesn't automatically override anyone else but the risk is where it lies in, the "what if" situation.

I don't necessarily think people should go to jail for it, I simply think it best be not encouraged. We have plenty of sluts in this world (men and women) and to my knowledge plenty of people get killed from it, this too can be tied into it but I'm not sure I want to argue that point.

__________________

Favorite Quotes:
"Everyone dies, it's a natural part of life. But if your life has no meaning you're already dead." -Wolf's Rain, Kiba

"Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost."
-Fullmetal Alchemist, Alphonse Elric

"It's not what folks say...it's what you answer to." -Madea Movie, Madea

"Deploying resilience is more important than being a prodigy." -Life, Me

gokusucks

The way I see it, prostitution is a lesser evil, a vice that harms nobody, and provides benefits for those involved in the transaction. While it is not something to be admired, I don't believe it warrants being looked down upon. I can see your point about greed as well, I just was a little unsure of your initial wording.

As for your request, here are three benefits that would come from the legalization of prostitution as I see it:

1) Legalizing vices like prostitution allow for the police to devote more time and resources on serious crimes
2) It shuts down the businesses of corrupt pimps, who are the type of harmful criminals we discuss here
3) It allows those who desire a sexual encounter and nothing more to find an outlet without having to worry about being arrested for a crime or shamed publicly.

__________________
http://tinyurl.com/yslm43

Click the link. It's the right thing to do.

Separate_From_Society

If a woman wants to sell her body to make money, why should there be anyone trying to stop her? If prostitution was made into a profitable business, STDs would probably decrease due to standards and rules placed by said businesses.

The problem of forced prostitution, however, is something that should be taken into account to a greater extent. Some could argue that commercialized prostitution is forced, but it would at least give the woman a real choice of when to join and when to leave.

__________________

A man said to the universe: "Sir, I exist!"
"However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."

Raven

I agree with the reasons you stated (I'm able to see from your side now) but I'm going to list my reasons against it also:

1) It can get you raped.
2) It can get you killed.
3) It can get you a disease.
4) It can lead to depression, possibly suicide if you don't enjoy it.

We can go on and on about this thing. The fact (or well formulated opinion) is it has pros and cons.

On a more personal note, it doesn't make sense to me why I'd want to be in a country filled with prostitutes. Men will want to be with women yet they are going to have to worry about whether or not they're marrying a "secretive" prostitute? I don't think men should have to be thinking about these types of things and I sure as hell don't want to be around it. Again, this is far more personal to myself but I'm sure decent guys would agree with me. I would never allow myself to be with one but I don't think that should even be included in this conversation, personally.

__________________

Favorite Quotes:
"Everyone dies, it's a natural part of life. But if your life has no meaning you're already dead." -Wolf's Rain, Kiba

"Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost."
-Fullmetal Alchemist, Alphonse Elric

"It's not what folks say...it's what you answer to." -Madea Movie, Madea

"Deploying resilience is more important than being a prodigy." -Life, Me

gokusucks

While this is all true and all of those are valid points, I still feel that personal morality should not determine law.

However, the prostitutes already exist in this country. Legalizing it will just make it safer for them. You're right that it's not really a good thing, but it certainly isn't a crime.

__________________
http://tinyurl.com/yslm43

Click the link. It's the right thing to do.

Raven