|Politics| Election 2009: Obama or McCain? - Page 4

Skrrp · 08-06-2008

Like I said: Nader > Obama > McCain.

Vivi · 08-06-2008

How is Obama better than McCain?

Lord_Sloth · 08-06-2008

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Originally Posted by louis6578

Obama because we need change to the change that we all hold so dear, i really like change, have i made myself clear.

Change change change change change. Ya know, he never said HOW he was gonna change it.

Personally, I'm not for either of them. I'm mostly neutral.

Vivi · 08-06-2008

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Originally Posted by Lord_Sloth

Change change change change change. Ya know, he never said HOW he was gonna change it.

Personally, I'm not for either of them. I'm mostly neutral.

You may be mostly neutral, but when it comes down to between Obama and McCain, who is the better choice?

Seriously Obamanites, show me why he is superior. I would like to know.

Lord_Sloth · 08-06-2008

Vivi, I have no real opinion as long as it's not Hilary and it won't be. I tend to agree with Republicans more because they have the balls to stand up to people. By that logic, it would be McCain but since I don't vote, I don't think about it.

vega123 · 08-06-2008

The reason why i choose Obama, is that its time for those soldiers to come back home. Mission Iraq, has been a failure for the most part and there doesn't seem to be an ending to that war. It's vietnam all over again. The economy has taken a bad turn, with reports of a recession, and inflation. Gas Prices are terrible, and too much spending on this pointless war. Each day we further go into deficit. With Obama there will be new changes and hopefully a turn into the right direction under democrats. Things weren't so bad when Bill was ruuning the country. Maybe we need to go back to being democratic, in order for positive changes to our country. With McCain, things will be the same for another 4 years. I like Obama's ideas, and he'll finally take those soldiers out.

Lord_Sloth · 08-06-2008

You're forgetting than nothing really happened while Clinton was running the country. At least Bush tried something.

vega123 · 08-06-2008

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Originally Posted by Lord_Sloth

You're forgetting than nothing really happened while Clinton was running the country. At least Bush tried something.

True, but we had better peace and the deficit was actually going down. Bush tried, but it was a failure.

Vivi · 08-06-2008

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Originally Posted by vega123

The reason why i choose Obama, is that its time for those soldiers to come back home. Mission Iraq, has been a failure for the most part and there doesn't seem to be an ending to that war. It's vietnam all over again. The economy has taken a bad turn, with reports of a recession, and inflation. Gas Prices are terrible, and too much spending on this pointless war. Each day we further go into deficit. With Obama there will be new changes and hopefully a turn into the right direction under democrats. Things weren't so bad when Bill was ruuning the country. Maybe we need to go back to being democratic, in order for positive changes to our country. With McCain, things will be the same for another 4 years. I like Obama's ideas, and he'll finally take those soldiers out.

McCain has said troops will be out of Iraq within two years. He's been saying we will pull out when we finish our job, and now we have finished the job. Pull out sooner than that though, and the job will be unfinished.

Obama has also signed on for a similar withdrawal time.

If you believe that the deficit will go away, you are sadly mistaken. Obama wants to move all troops from Iraq to Afghanistan, instead of getting rid of the debt, it merely keeps it the same. Simply shifting it to another country. He is also pro-Universal Health Care, which will be the single most expensive program or operation enacted by our government. Seriously, who is going to pay for the well being of our entire population?

Vega, I already told you, Clinton and the economy being good are two uncorrelated pieces of data. As kindly posted by Skrrp, you can take basically any two pieces of data with a trend, and make up some bull shit reason as to why one causes the other. Like this:

Obviously with decrease in Pirates, the global temperature has increased.

Now, tell me, why is Obama better?

Lord_Sloth · 08-06-2008

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Originally Posted by vega123

True, but we had better peace and the deficit was actually going down. Bush tried, but it was a failure.

You missunderstand. We only had peace because no1 tried anything, not because it was a Dem in office.

Vivi · 08-06-2008

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Originally Posted by Lord_Sloth

You missunderstand. We only had peace because no1 tried anything, not because it was a Dem in office.

Actually, Clinton extended the hostilities of the Middle East, instead of defusing the situation in a peaceful manner as you most likely would prefer, he ran air raids on Iraq. Bombing seemed to be Clinton's thing. Clinton also failed in handling the Rwanda issue.

Lord_Sloth · 08-06-2008

Oh right. That's where that night vision explosive memory from the news came from.

vega123 · 08-06-2008

To Vivi- My point with clinton, was to state that under a democratic president, we are better off. As for the troops, I don't trust MCcain one bit. Bush said there was weapons of mass destruction, and they still haven't find anything. I believe in what Obama wants for the country, and i judge on how the current situation the country is in, and things doesn't look to get any better. We can't really judge why Obama is better, because he lacks in experience, but my reasons for why he should be our president stands. The country is better off with Obama. But that's my opinion. By the way good visual and data.

Lord_Sloth · 08-06-2008

Okay then, Vega. How would YOU have handeled 9/11?

View Poll Results: Who do you want as the next President
Obama	18	58.06%
McCain	4	12.90%
Neither	3	9.68%
Don't care	6	19.35%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

08-06-2008	#46 (permalink)
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Lord_Sloth (29) Great Lord of Worlds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Douglasville Georgia Posts: 8,636 Rep Power: 78	Re: Election 2009: Obama or McCain? Vivi, I have no real opinion as long as it's not Hilary and it won't be. I tend to agree with Republicans more because they have the balls to stand up to people. By that logic, it would be McCain but since I don't vote, I don't think about it. __________________ Lord_Sloth's Theme Song Lord_Sloth's "ASK ME ANYTHING!!!" Go ahead, click and ask whatever you want. "You can't help it. You can't fight it. You can't accept it. You just have to leave everything related to it because you couldn't get what you chose." ~Evil Dark Knight http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf

08-06-2008	#51 (permalink)
vega123 (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 1,241 Rep Power: 39	Re: Election 2009: Obama or McCain? The reason why i choose Obama, is that its time for those soldiers to come back home. Mission Iraq, has been a failure for the most part and there doesn't seem to be an ending to that war. It's vietnam all over again. The economy has taken a bad turn, with reports of a recession, and inflation. Gas Prices are terrible, and too much spending on this pointless war. Each day we further go into deficit. With Obama there will be new changes and hopefully a turn into the right direction under democrats. Things weren't so bad when Bill was ruuning the country. Maybe we need to go back to being democratic, in order for positive changes to our country. With McCain, things will be the same for another 4 years. I like Obama's ideas, and he'll finally take those soldiers out. __________________

08-06-2008	#52 (permalink)
Lord_Sloth (29) Great Lord of Worlds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Douglasville Georgia Posts: 8,636 Rep Power: 78	Re: Election 2009: Obama or McCain? You're forgetting than nothing really happened while Clinton was running the country. At least Bush tried something. __________________ Lord_Sloth's Theme Song Lord_Sloth's "ASK ME ANYTHING!!!" Go ahead, click and ask whatever you want. "You can't help it. You can't fight it. You can't accept it. You just have to leave everything related to it because you couldn't get what you chose." ~Evil Dark Knight http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf

08-06-2008	#57 (permalink)
Lord_Sloth (29) Great Lord of Worlds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Douglasville Georgia Posts: 8,636 Rep Power: 78	Re: Election 2009: Obama or McCain? Oh right. That's where that night vision explosive memory from the news came from. __________________ Lord_Sloth's Theme Song Lord_Sloth's "ASK ME ANYTHING!!!" Go ahead, click and ask whatever you want. "You can't help it. You can't fight it. You can't accept it. You just have to leave everything related to it because you couldn't get what you chose." ~Evil Dark Knight http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf

08-06-2008	#58 (permalink)
vega123 (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 1,241 Rep Power: 39	Re: Election 2009: Obama or McCain? To Vivi- My point with clinton, was to state that under a democratic president, we are better off. As for the troops, I don't trust MCcain one bit. Bush said there was weapons of mass destruction, and they still haven't find anything. I believe in what Obama wants for the country, and i judge on how the current situation the country is in, and things doesn't look to get any better. We can't really judge why Obama is better, because he lacks in experience, but my reasons for why he should be our president stands. The country is better off with Obama. But that's my opinion. By the way good visual and data. __________________

08-06-2008	#59 (permalink)
Lord_Sloth (29) Great Lord of Worlds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Douglasville Georgia Posts: 8,636 Rep Power: 78	Re: Election 2009: Obama or McCain? Okay then, Vega. How would YOU have handeled 9/11? __________________ Lord_Sloth's Theme Song Lord_Sloth's "ASK ME ANYTHING!!!" Go ahead, click and ask whatever you want. "You can't help it. You can't fight it. You can't accept it. You just have to leave everything related to it because you couldn't get what you chose." ~Evil Dark Knight http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf

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vega123 (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 1,241 Rep Power: 39