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Old 05-13-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default Debate: disciplining childeren

Do you think spanking or hitting kids is wrong? Right to a certain degree? How would you raise your kids? Combination of discipline methods?

Oh and since this thread is related to kids please try not to call people names or "barbaric" because it's their views.


(first of all, i dont have no kids. im still a kid myself)
reason i made this thread is, i use to get a smack sometimes, idk if yall have, but i think my parents did the rite thing.
i think thats what kept me "off the streets" and stuff of the like.

now i see childeren who never get hit, and even can give an attitude to their parents without getting punished in any way.
its those same childeren that end up fucked up, smoking weed and whatnot.

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You've gotta beat the fuck outta your kids. Make them black and blue until they submit.
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I didn't like that
Yeah I think this was a serious thread. Anyways,

I'm not white lol, So I do get spanked once a while lol, but not that seriously. This is the correct way. You should DOn't take it too far and not too often. Just the FIRST time they do something bad, just spank them. Then they'll learn that it won't be good. Childeren learn fast. So when they grow even when to want to do a bad thing, they'll remember their first spanking when they did it.

Someone getting what I'm trying to say? lol.
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It's because you're barbaric.



@Shotkeeper: Not too much, not too often? If you're only going to go halfway, you may as well not spank them at all. If I ever decide to settle down and have kids, I'm going to start buffing up my belt arm and devising new and harder ways to deliver the punishment. When they do something wrong, I'll be dishing out their just due, no matter if I spanked them 5 minutes ago for the same thing. If they talk back and act like jerks in private, I'll spank them. If they do it in public, I'll drop everything on the spot, bend them over my knee and paddle them in public, because the embarrassment that goes with public chastisement is the icing on the corporal punishment cake. Some weenie psychologists and new age philosophers may argue that this 'damages' a child's psychology, but that's a load of bull. People have been giving their kids the belt, rod, switch, hand, or whatever else was laying around for thousands of years and I'd say that most of us turned out all right.
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It's because you're barbaric.



@Shotkeeper: Not too much, not too often? If you're only going to go halfway, you may as well not spank them at all. If I ever decide to settle down and have kids, I'm going to start buffing up my belt arm and devising new and harder ways to deliver the punishment. When they do something wrong, I'll be dishing out their just due, no matter if I spanked them 5 minutes ago for the same thing. If they talk back and act like jerks in private, I'll spank them. If they do it in public, I'll drop everything on the spot, bend them over my knee and paddle them in public, because the embarrassment that goes with public chastisement is the icing on the corporal punishment cake. Some weenie psychologists and new age philosophers may argue that this 'damages' a child's psychology, but that's a load of bull. People have been giving their kids the belt, rod, switch, hand, or whatever else was laying around for thousands of years and I'd say that most of us turned out all right.
Wtf, won't you find it weird that you're kids eventually beat u up instead? I believe that's really the wrong way. The kids from earlier times had no shame, but they also didn't go to school. ( I really mean early times).

But THat's how I think of it.
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Wtf, won't you find it weird that you're kids eventually beat u up instead? I believe that's really the wrong way. The kids from earlier times had no shame, but they also didn't go to school. ( I really mean early times).

But THat's how I think of it.

It's not the wrong way at all. You'll find that children that are adequately spanked are usually more well behaved and turn out to be better people overall than those that aren't, and turn into emo's. And, no, my kids aren't going to beat me up eventually. I'm 18, and my dad is 55, and he could still blast me into the ground with me getting one or two good hits in, if I got lucky with a 2 by 4 or something. Eliwood can attest to that. If life continues regularly, with no more injuries for him, I'll be 35 before I'd even try to fight him (supposing that was my aim for life), because I'd seriously have no chance of winning.
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i liek the word barbaric
ok weed we have all done, i typed this thread way to quick.... but i meant like become "thugs".. crack car windows, steal whatevurs innit, you knew what i meant

anywayz, anyone here who DIDNT get any licks??

i never got beat up BADLY, but i did get hit with strange things, shoes, the phone and (and i shit you not) once my dad threw a newspaper at me (liek wtf, no?)
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My dad used to hit me with John Goodman.
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I got hit and I've been hit in fights. I think kids need a smack to wake the fuck up. I love the kids who never get hit because they approach you like you won't hit them for talking shit. Thats when I break their nose and watch them cry. It's amazing that some kids can make it so far in life without getting hit by someone or something. It just raises a generation of pussies and kids who can't stand alone. Why do you think there are gangs? None of those kids could do shit on their own. They are all useless but together they are tough!

I will def hit my kid if he tries to act like a smartass. They need to understand that their are people in this world who don't take shit. Don't disrespect someone like me and expect to walk away without getting hit.
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I got hit and I've been hit in fights. I think kids need a smack to wake the fuck up. I love the kids who never get hit because they approach you like you won't hit them for talking shit. Thats when I break their nose and watch them cry. It's amazing that some kids can make it so far in life without getting hit by someone or something. It just raises a generation of pussies and kids who can't stand alone. Why do you think there are gangs? None of those kids could do shit on their own. They are all useless but together they are tough!

I will def hit my kid if he tries to act like a smartass. They need to understand that their are people in this world who don't take shit. Don't disrespect someone like me and expect to walk away without getting hit.
true true today iwa sin a smallish fight at school but my utter failure at a flying kick thing failed with me bounching off the other persons shoe lmao...

anyway you should only smack kids to give them a lesson...
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Nowadays it'd hurt kids more to take away the internet or their PSP for a week.

Also, smoking weed is barbaric?
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i have never smoked weed is it good, am i missing something??

back on topic

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Yes that is sad but true lol. My one friend would get a system taken from him for a month at a time! I just laughed while I played my N64 in front of him... rofl
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Okay, okay, okay, my views here:

Yeah, I was hit a little as a kid, but only when I did somethign REALLY wrong - I think it only happened once, really, hard enough to leave a mark, and the rest was just slapped wrists and stuff - I can't remember what I did, but I don't think I ever did it again ... I have grown up to be scared of him, and some of the things he does, but I also respect him -I've just been brought up in an nviroment where dad isn't allowed to lay a finger on me in any way shape or form. If he hits me too hard, he could get in trouble with the authorities.

It's hyped up a lot more, now. You don't even have to be hit to claim child abuse. Judging by what I've heard, I could have called Childline and repoted my dad for some of the things he's said to me, and done to my siblings. However, he grew up when that kind of thing was perfectly acceptable - granddad would regularly hit him and my uncles and aunts when they did something wrong, and nobody thought anything more of it, but nowadays, such a thing seems pretty damn horrible. He (dad) nearly strangled my sister once - true, she wasn't in the wrong that time, but what I'm saying is that that was the kind of thing that used to happen in his family, not by my nan and granddad's case, but him and his brothers and sisters basically nearly killed each other, and it was all fine. Now, however, if a kid hits another kid, in self defence, play fighting, or anything, really, it's a huge deal. I could understand if the kid rammed a knife into his pal's chest, but a little slap probably didn't even hurt.

Annnd I have just spent a bunch of time rambling, but my point is this: I'm not for child abuse. If you read 'A Child Called It' by Dave Peltzer, some of the things his mother puts him through are purely inhuman. That, I do not agree with - beating a young child until their bones are broken? Raping a girl of 8 years old for fun? No way. I do believe, however, that if a child is REALLY out of order (I'm not talking tantrums, or tears. I'm talking kicking/biting their parents, and resorting to actions and words children aren't technically supposed to use [though that's not clearly defined anymore]) then perhaps a firmer warning than just words should be taken. As for whether I'll hit my kids when I have them? I don't plan on raising them to abuse their parents or other people, so hopefully, I won't need to hit them. And I would only do it if there were severe problems. I don't agree with hitting for no apparent reason.

... yeah. ^^;;
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Disciplining Children: I’m no psychologist. However, I do know a few facts. If successive and constant, a child could become emotional scarred. If a mother beats her child, then that child will grow up with the concept of abusing children. Dysfunctional families tend to repeat themselves. If a child is raised in a negative environment at an early age, then he’ll provide a negative environment toward his children. However, not all children are beaten and abused. Hitting once and awhile such as smacking is acceptable. For example, if a baby touches fire, it’ll get burned. Therefore, it will not touch fire anymore. Meaning, if a child does something wrong, he gets smacked, and now he knows not to do it again. That much I can agree with. Threatening children with smacks or beatings is totally unacceptable. That installs fear in a child, and a child should never fear their parent. A child should respect and admire their parent. The parent is their role-model. It’s a known fact that children absorb things from their role-models. If a parent cusses, the child will soon start. If a parent threatens to beat someone, guess what that child will one day do? As a teenager, I am old enough to understand my place. I understand what’s right and wrong, in general terms. I also know my limits. Children are still learning about the world, and it’s very crucial that they have a positive role-model. However, this role-model also needs to set standards. Children cannot be barbarians. We live in a civilized society, and if we are to function as such, there needs to be discipline for one’s actions. Therefore, a child needs to be raised with a balanced of love and discipline. Otherwise, they’ll either turn into a mass-murderer or a barbaric lunatic. Well, that’s exaggerated, but you get my point. In other words, minor smacks and spankings are acceptable as long as it doesn’t go over-board.

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