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Old 09-01-2008   #1 (permalink)
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So, yeah, it’s blatantly obvious by now that Raditz could’ve beaten anyone weaker than Full Power Semi Perfect Cell. Everyone outside of this forum knows it, so I have no idea why the hell you guys are being so nooby about of all of this. Why must you underrate Raditz so much? Is it your hate for long hair? Your hate for DBZ? Your hate for Akira Toriyama? Your hate for yourself?

Whatever the case, I have taken to time to prove to you all Raditz’s true strength. Keep in mind this is targeted towards a certain few members(not going to name any names..) who have openly declared their dislike towards Raditz. Some members have been a bit more subtle in this, only hinting at their distaste for him in their power level lists. What really has driven me to this, however, is that some of you believe that Appule could’ve defeated Raditz easily. Now, as any sane DBZ fan knows, this is absolute absurdity. I’m actually surprised that not only will the mods allow this kind of trolling, but they will actually agree with the trolls. This forum may be great, but some things on here really do disgust me.

Now, to start off, we will examine Raditz’s hair. Looks about the length of an SSJ 3 most would agree. Matter of fact, it looks exactly fucking like Goku’s SSJ 3 hair. This is fool proof evidence of Raditz’s true power, yet you nubs seem to pass this off as a mere coincidence? That really is bullshit. You honestly think that the SSJ3 hair wasn’t a reference to Raditz at all? Yeah, I’m so sure that Toriyama was able to draw that hair without thinking one bit about Raditz. Bull. Shit.

Since some of you won’t accept this as enough proof, I will unfortunately be forced to elaborate. Raditz is the first son of Bardock, and in Saiyan terms that means a lot. His potential is far greater than that of his younger brother’s, simply because he came first, and will always be the first son. It is also blatantly obvious that his hair was once like Bardock and Goku’s, but unlocking SSJ 3 has caused his hair to grow. When hearing about the death of his father, who in deleted scenes of the Bardock special was shown to be very close to, he unlocked the powers of a Super Saiyan 3. His hair failed to turn yellow because he had not yet unlocked the power of the regular Super Saiyan. While this renders his Super Saiyan 3 a bit weaker than the normal Super Saiyan 3, it still gives him a drastic power increase, enough to beat anyone weaker than Semi Perfect Cell no sweat.

Some of you nubs will of course deny this, but answer me this: would Raditz as a kid really have that long of hair? Of course not, he would be walking on it all the time. The only logical place he could’ve gotten that hair from was from the power of an SSJ3. If you deny this, then please feel free to provide a better explanation.

Now, some of you nubs STILL will not accept this. You’ll probably ask a dumb question like “if Raditz was so close to his father, why wouldn’t he kill Frieza with his new found powers?” Well, he never learned about the truth of his father s death until about a month before the Raditz saga. This, combined with the fact that everyone had kept this from him his whole life is what ultimately gave him his transformation. Every scouter in the solar system was broken when he transformed, and they all just considered this to be a malfunction. Raditz toned his power down to what it usually was to avoid the destruction of the planet his lived on, as he didn’t want to die.

If you’ve ever seen deleted scenes from the Bardock movie(which btw is considered canon) you will know that Bardock gave him telepathic powers. Over the years Raditz has developed these immensely, and eventually gained the ability to see the future of alternate timelines. He saw what would become of his Saiyan comrades if he was killed, and what would happen to Frieza. He was excited inside. After this he would use his full strength to rule the demon realm, as he had heard that Dabura had long been gone from it. With his only obstacle gone, the demon realm would easily fall to his rule. When the people he hated most(Vegeta, Nappa, Frieza and his men) were killed and sent there, he would torture them for all of eternity.

The plan was great, so he went to earth, got himself killed, and just before he died he transmitted info about the dragon balls to Vegeta and Nappa, setting up for Frieza’s empire to fall at the hands of his brother.

Think about it, why else would he suddenly remember Goku after over 20 years? And why would they need Goku’s help in the first place? Vegeta was leagues ahead of every other Saiyan. So much so that no one else would be of use to him(except Raditz at full power).

Everything adds up, Raditz is much more powerful than you nubs take him for, and I have proved it here.

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Read it. Its fool proof evidence(I'm not even joking lol).
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God dammit. Its a serious thread!

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It seems like this could be true facts.
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What do you mean could? This are the real facts. This isn't some theory based off of nothing.
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What do you mean could? This are the real facts. This isn't some theory based off of nothing.
I guess it is real then, but I was thinking about it.
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great conspiracy theory ,haha

But radditz was at best 1220-1250 1200 being held highly canon

His hair could be in a pony tail as a child

Length of hair has no indication of saiyan power.

Radditz being better because he was born first?
nah goten become a super saiyan way before gohan did. Barcdock had a higher level when goku was conceaved , same would be true

Appule perhaps could defeat radditz, but I dunno if it would be easy hee did let his guard down to a coulple guys woho combined barely top over 800

If radditz had super saiyan 3 power he would destroy freeza

As for veeta and nappa needing help, what if they went to a plaent of guys all in the 18,000 range. Also AT probably just was making the sroty as he went along and kind doesnt make sense but does enough to not say it was fully dumb

I'am priddy sure you are just having fun with this but i did like the demon world take over thing you said har har.
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What deleted scenes, from the special what the hell are you talking about?
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Denial.

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There are deleted scenes in the Bardock Special that show him with the same hair as Turles/Goku/Bardock.

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His hair was an obvious indication of SSJ 3. Why else would Toriyama draw it like that?

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nah goten become a super saiyan way before gohan did. Barcdock had a higher level when goku was conceaved , same would be true
Goten had Super Saiyan genes.

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He wanted to die so he could exact revenge on Frieza's empire.

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If radditz had super saiyan 3 power he would destroy freeza
He had too much power(or so he thought) to use in this realm.

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No, if you look at the other evidence its because Raditz needed a bullshit excuse to have Goku kill him(and then in turn cause the events of the Namek Arc, destroying Frieza's empire).

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On the DVD on the Bardock special is a deleted scene with Raditz in it. In the booklet it said that Akira Toriyama's studio said that Raditz shouldn't be shown given telepathic powers and although AT disagreed with this, he had no say in what Toei did. So the scene was removed.
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Why wouldn't he torture Freeza, Vegeta, Nappa and his men there and then have Goku kill him and then he can also torture them for eternity, that way he'd have a reputation for that. Also Raditz wouldn't go to the Demon plane if he died he'd go to hell just like Cell did.
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Why wouldn't he torture Freeza, Vegeta, Nappa and his men there and then have Goku kill him and then he can also torture them for eternity, that way he'd have a reputation for that. Also Raditz wouldn't go to the Demon plane if he died he'd go to hell just like Cell did.
Cell going to hell was filler.

And I already explained a million times, he was unsure of his new powers, so he didn't want to use them in this realm and cause the destruction of his planet, causing him to die in the vacuum of space.
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Nothing suggests he didn't go to Hell in the Manga
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Nothing suggests he didn't go to the Demon Realm in the manga.
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