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Old 09-01-2008   #61 (permalink)
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No, I mean your "Evidence".
Why don't you provide a better explanation then?
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Why don't you provide a better explanation then?
I'm not in the mood to waste time in such a pointless thread.
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How about that Raditz was stated as around 1,200?
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How about that Raditz was stated as around 1,200?
He would've had a much easier time destroying Piccolo and Goku if this were the case.
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How about that Raditz was stated as around 1,200?
So very true.
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So, yeah, it’s blatantly obvious by now that Raditz could’ve beaten anyone weaker than Full Power Semi Perfect Cell. Everyone outside of this forum knows it, so I have no idea why the hell you guys are being so nooby about of all of this. Why must you underrate Raditz so much? Is it your hate for long hair? Your hate for DBZ? Your hate for Akira Toriyama? Your hate for yourself?

Whatever the case, I have taken to time to prove to you all Raditz’s true strength. Keep in mind this is targeted towards a certain few members(not going to name any names..) who have openly declared their dislike towards Raditz. Some members have been a bit more subtle in this, only hinting at their distaste for him in their power level lists. What really has driven me to this, however, is that some of you believe that Appule could’ve defeated Raditz easily. Now, as any sane DBZ fan knows, this is absolute absurdity. I’m actually surprised that not only will the mods allow this kind of trolling, but they will actually agree with the trolls. This forum may be great, but some things on here really do disgust me.

Now, to start off, we will examine Raditz’s hair. Looks about the length of an SSJ 3 most would agree. Matter of fact, it looks exactly fucking like Goku’s SSJ 3 hair. This is fool proof evidence of Raditz’s true power, yet you nubs seem to pass this off as a mere coincidence? That really is bullshit. You honestly think that the SSJ3 hair wasn’t a reference to Raditz at all? Yeah, I’m so sure that Toriyama was able to draw that hair without thinking one bit about Raditz. Bull. Shit.

Since some of you won’t accept this as enough proof, I will unfortunately be forced to elaborate. Raditz is the first son of Bardock, and in Saiyan terms that means a lot. His potential is far greater than that of his younger brother’s, simply because he came first, and will always be the first son. It is also blatantly obvious that his hair was once like Bardock and Goku’s, but unlocking SSJ 3 has caused his hair to grow. When hearing about the death of his father, who in deleted scenes of the Bardock special was shown to be very close to, he unlocked the powers of a Super Saiyan 3. His hair failed to turn yellow because he had not yet unlocked the power of the regular Super Saiyan. While this renders his Super Saiyan 3 a bit weaker than the normal Super Saiyan 3, it still gives him a drastic power increase, enough to beat anyone weaker than Semi Perfect Cell no sweat.

Some of you nubs will of course deny this, but answer me this: would Raditz as a kid really have that long of hair? Of course not, he would be walking on it all the time. The only logical place he could’ve gotten that hair from was from the power of an SSJ3. If you deny this, then please feel free to provide a better explanation.

Now, some of you nubs STILL will not accept this. You’ll probably ask a dumb question like “if Raditz was so close to his father, why wouldn’t he kill Frieza with his new found powers?” Well, he never learned about the truth of his father s death until about a month before the Raditz saga. This, combined with the fact that everyone had kept this from him his whole life is what ultimately gave him his transformation. Every scouter in the solar system was broken when he transformed, and they all just considered this to be a malfunction. Raditz toned his power down to what it usually was to avoid the destruction of the planet his lived on, as he didn’t want to die.

If you’ve ever seen deleted scenes from the Bardock movie(which btw is considered canon) you will know that Bardock gave him telepathic powers. Over the years Raditz has developed these immensely, and eventually gained the ability to see the future of alternate timelines. He saw what would become of his Saiyan comrades if he was killed, and what would happen to Frieza. He was excited inside. After this he would use his full strength to rule the demon realm, as he had heard that Dabura had long been gone from it. With his only obstacle gone, the demon realm would easily fall to his rule. When the people he hated most(Vegeta, Nappa, Frieza and his men) were killed and sent there, he would torture them for all of eternity.

The plan was great, so he went to earth, got himself killed, and just before he died he transmitted info about the dragon balls to Vegeta and Nappa, setting up for Frieza’s empire to fall at the hands of his brother.

Think about it, why else would he suddenly remember Goku after over 20 years? And why would they need Goku’s help in the first place? Vegeta was leagues ahead of every other Saiyan. So much so that no one else would be of use to him(except Raditz at full power).

Everything adds up, Raditz is much more powerful than you nubs take him for, and I have proved it here.

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back in 2000 when alot of us were discussing Raditz hair at Dragonball-gt.com, alot of us belived if he was to achive SSJ3 we figured his hair would of gotten longer, but I don't think the writters had that planned out when they first did DragonBall Z
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Raditz Full power>Mystic Gohan
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when Goku was in Heaven and Hell I am surpised he didn't run into Raditz and the others in there, hell in Movie 12 he ran into Vegeta
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hero 764, I agree a lot with what you said; you obviously seem to be one of the few people who understands what they're talking about when it comes to Dragon Ball. However, I disagree with your implications of making Raditz seem more powerful than Nappa. You see, Nappa actually had the ability to transform into SSJ 2, so there's no way Raditz could be that much more powerful than Nappa, assuming he wasn't weaker than him (I don't think Raditz was stronger than Nappa). In any case, good read. Good luck on convincing these arrogant fools.
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hero 764, I agree a lot with what you said; you obviously seem to be one of the few people who understands what they're talking about when it comes to Dragon Ball. However, I disagree with your implications of making Raditz seem more powerful than Nappa. You see, Nappa actually had the ability to transform into SSJ 2, so there's no way Raditz could be that much more powerful than Nappa, assuming he wasn't weaker than him (I don't think Raditz was stronger than Nappa). In any case, good read. Good luck on convincing these arrogant fools.
Hmm, indeed what you say may be true, but its pretty obvious that Raditz's SSJ3 is quite powerful. I doubt a Super Saiyan 2 from Nappa could match up tbh.
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Raditz was weaker than Nappa
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Could Nappa go SSJ3?
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Hmm, indeed what you say may be true, but its pretty obvious that Raditz's SSJ3 is quite powerful. I doubt a Super Saiyan 2 from Nappa could match up tbh.
Then how could Nappa have survived Tien's tri-beam? We all know that the tri-beam is the user's power x10,000 (there's no way Tien was any higher than the 100,000's in the android saga); Nappa's base power had to of been at least around 18,000,000 to be able to withstand it, since Tien's power was about 1,800 during the saiyan saga. Times that base level with just even regular super saiyan, and it's already 900,000,000, which is close to semi-perfect Cell's power as it is! Now, you could argue that the SSJ 2 multiplier could be very weak, but you can't deny that Nappa would come very close since he already does on SSJ. Hell, for all we know, Nappa could actually go SSJ 3.
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