superman equal to which dbz character? - Page 3

an0nym0us · 09-01-2008

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Originally Posted by The Chibi Kiriyama

Past this point, it starts getting into "please, Kami, make the Dragon Balls wish him away" territory. The Silver Age Superman was so ridiculously powerful he could sneeze away galaxies on accident.

Correction, it's a solar system not a galaxy and it's only a side-effect of Myxlpztk's magical powder. Meaning, sneezing away a solar system was not Silver Age Superman's own power. Without Myxlpztk's magical powder, no sneezing away a solar system.

It's a big no, if he can beat anyone in DBZGT.

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Originally Posted by The Chibi Kiriyama

The Superman of DC One Million is the most powerful: immune to kryptonite, able to stop any conceivable threat, and with the power to create life and recreate entire realities on a whim. Oh, and he's 85,000 years old so it's safe to say he's practically immortal.

Correction, it's Superman-Prime of DC One Million, he's not immune to kryptonite as Solaris tried to kill him with a kryptonite. Also, with the help of Superman from the 5th dimension, Superman-Prime brought Lois back to life from the DNA retrieved by Kyle Rayner from Solaris' Core. And he also recreate Planet Krypton with the help of Hourman III. Without Superman from 5th dimension and Hourman III, no reviving of Lois and no recreation of Planet Krypton.

It's a big no, if he can beat anyone in DBZGT.

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Originally Posted by The Chibi Kiriyama

But, at the end of the day, it's hard to compare any of these Supermen to a Toriyama character. In Toriyama's reality, we need to believe that the characters can move so fast that they leave behind the light that had been striking them, yet simultaneously may have problems exceeding the speed of sound while running. In the DC Universe, we have to believe that a man can leap off of Earth at speeds capable of traversing back through time and avoid disintegrating this planet in the process. Both definitions of physics clash. Thus, you can't come to a conclusion either way since both fictional places have a different stance on science and what's possible.

Sorry, I'm not trying to insult anyone but I only want to correct the errors you made in your posts.

Moderators, please close this thread.

**Darkprince410** · 09-01-2008

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Originally Posted by an0nym0us

Correction, it's a solar system not a galaxy and it's only a side-effect of Myxlpztk's magical powder. Meaning, sneezing away a solar system was not Silver Age Superman's own power. Without Myxlpztk's magical powder, no sneezing away a solar system.

It's a big no if he can beat anyone in DBZGT.

Correction, it's Superman-Prime of DC One Million, he's not immune to kryptonite as Solaris tried to kill him with a kryptonite. Also, with the help of Superman from the 5th dimension, Superman-Prime brought Lois back to life from the DNA retrieved by Kyle Rayner from Solaris' Core. And he also recreate Planet Krypton with the help of Hourman III. Without Superman from 5th dimension and Hourman III, no reviving of Lois and no recreation of Planet Krypton.

It's a big no, if he can beat anyone in DBZGT.

Sorry, I'm not trying to insult anyone but I only want to correct the errors you made in your posts.

Moderators, please close this thread.

1) The magic powder only induced the sneeze, it didn't enhance the power of the sneeze whatsoever. While under the effects of yellow or higher sunlight, Superman is incapable of sneezing for the very same reasons that he can't blush and can't get sick, his body is immune to the stimuli that would produce those effects. No natural stimulus on Earth could induce a sneeze out of Superman, which is why Myxlpztk threw magic sneezing powder on him, as he has no more immunity to magic as a normal person would. Nevertheless, the sneeze was entirely of his own production.

2) The Superman you're referring to is NOT the Superman/boy Prime we're talking about. The one we're referring to is the one that appeared in the Infinite Crisis storylines, whereas the weaker Superman Prime you're referring to is exclusive to the DC One Million crossover.

The Superman/boy Prime we've been talking about is immune to kryptonite from universes apart from his own, and since his Krypton was engulfed by Rao rather than blown up, there was no Kryptonite in existence in his universe to affect him. Furthermore, what wasn't mentioned is that Superman Prime was able to survive the destruction of the entire universe of Earth-51 during his battle with Monarch, which alone is a feat that no Z/GT character has ever come close to achieving, and was able to shatter the barriers of all the universes with his fists, whereas the nearest equivalent in Z/GT was Shin Buu and Ssj3 Gotenkusu puncturing small holes from the dimension of the Room of Spirit and Time back into the real world.

This Superman Prime managed to hold the edge in his fight with the Ion imbued Sodom Yat, which was said to possess nearly omnipotent powers drawing from the Guardians of the Universe as well as the Green Lantern battery itself, even before Sodom was exposed to the lead of a nearby nuclear plant (Sodom Yat is a Daxamite, which experience similar, abiet permanent effects to lead that Kryptonians do to Kryptonite)

Lastly, you don't have the authority to tell the moderators to close a topic.

an0nym0us · 09-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Darkprince410

1) The magic powder only induced the sneeze, it didn't enhance the power of the sneeze whatsoever. While under the effects of yellow or higher sunlight, Superman is incapable of sneezing for the very same reasons that he can't blush and can't get sick, his body is immune to the stimuli that would produce those effects. No natural stimulus on Earth could induce a sneeze out of Superman, which is why Myxlpztk threw magic sneezing powder on him, as he has no more immunity to magic as a normal person would. Nevertheless, the sneeze was entirely of his own production.

I'm not trying to insult you but it's pretty clear that you don't have that issue or comics. Just like I said before, sneezing away the solar system was a side-effect because Silver Age Superman has no immunity to magic. It only happened once and it was not listed in the data book or author's interview as one of his arsenals.

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2) He's immune to kryptonite from universes apart from his own, and since his Krypton was engulfed by Rao rather than blown up, there was no Kryptonite in existence in his universe to affect him. The Superman you're referring to is NOT Superman/boy Prime. Furthermore, what wasn't mentioned is that Superman Prime was able to survive the destruction of the entire universe of Earth-51 during his battle with Monarch, which alone is a feat that no Z/GT character has ever come close to achieving, and was able to shatter the barriers of all the universes with his fists, whereas the nearest equivalent in Z/GT was Shin Buu and Ssj3 Gotenkusu puncturing small holes from the dimension of the Room of Spirit and Time back into the real world.

I'm not trying to insult you but read before you reply, I'm talking about Superman-Prime from DC One million and not from the Crisis.

**Darkprince410** · 09-01-2008

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Originally Posted by an0nym0us

I'm not trying to insult you but it's pretty clear that you don't have that issue or comics. Just like I said before, sneezing away the solar system was a side-effect because Silver Age Superman has no immunity to magic. It only happened once and it was not listed in the data book or author's interview as one of his arsenals.

I'm not trying to insult you but read before you reply, I'm talking about Superman-Prime from DC One million and not from the Crisis.

1) I have read that issue before, and even though it was a cloud of the magic sneezing powder all over Metropolis, it was mainly aimed to affect Superman. As I said, the powder only induced the sneeze (since normal sneezing powder wouldn't), but the actual intensity of the sneeze was from his own lung and muscle strength.

2) That may be the Superman-Prime you're referring to, but myself and the others have always been referring to the Infinite Crisis Superboy/man Prime. The Superman-Prime of DC One Million fits into the weaker incarnations of Superman that fall short of some of the Z Senshi in terms of power.

ps2_master94 · 09-01-2008

come on, mystic gohan is to powerful for superman. and ss4 goku is just a stomp. seriously, superboy isnt really even superman.

an0nym0us · 09-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Darkprince410

1) I have read that issue before, and even though it was a cloud of the magic sneezing powder all over Metropolis, it was mainly aimed to affect Superman. As I said, the powder only induced the sneeze (since normal sneezing powder wouldn't), but the actual intensity of the sneeze was from his own lung and muscle strength.

I'm not trying to insult you again but it's pretty clear that you don't have that issue or you didn't completely read that issue. Also, there were no proofs that it is the actual intensity of the sneeze from his own lung. Next time, debate or fight for something you're completely aware or 100% knowledgable.

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2) That may be the Superman-Prime you're referring to, but myself and the others have always been referring to the Infinite Crisis Superboy/man Prime. The Superman-Prime of DC One Million fits into the weaker incarnations of Superman that fall short of some of the Z Senshi in terms of power.

Did you read The Chibi Kiriyama's post and my reply?

I'm not trying to insult you again but to be honest I'm not in the right position to judge something about Superman-Prime of the Crisis because I still don't have that issues. When it comes to comics, I don't depend on the internet unlike you.

Moderators, please close this thread.

Dupe of USSJed · 09-01-2008

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Moderators, please close this thread.

Correction: I believe that if anyone should be able to ask that, it should be the thread creator(who was banned lol), not just any member who wants the thread closed without any good reason(Such as pornography or massive spam). If you don't want to discuss Superman's comparison to various DBZ characters then I suggest you simply leave this thread and never look back.

Madness · 09-01-2008

Well actually the last DBZ - Superman thread was closed on grounds of being shit, and the mods were sick of it:

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Look simple matter of this is, no one will accept the outcome from either side. Bullshit aside this thread has been done many times and everytime it was locked at a much earlier stage. Enough is enough. Any other conversations started here unrelated to Goku and Superman, feel free to carry them elsewhere. Like a new thread.

~Locked~

an0nym0us · 09-01-2008

My reason why I want this thread to be lock is they keep on debating without having the true knowledge about Superman comics, it's just pointless.

Rudol_Ichiga · 09-01-2008

Agreed. Besides we never get a real conclusion. Superman fanboys are going to say Superman wins, and DBZ fanboys are going to say that Mystic Gohan or Goku win.

**Darkprince410** · 09-01-2008

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Originally Posted by an0nym0us

My reason why I want this thread to be lock is they keep on debating without having the true knowledge about Superman comics, it's just pointless.

However, the problem with that is that we do have the proper facts, but you're skewing some of them and and referring to alternate versiosn of another.

Final Ultima · 09-01-2008

Superman is equal to NONE. He can't compete with the power they have. Supes is out of his weight class here.

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Originally Posted by an0nym0us

My reason why I want this thread to be lock is they keep on debating without having the true knowledge about Superman comics, it's just pointless.

This is always the case in every form you go to.
The only "CANONZ" Superman is POST-crisis and he doesn't compare to ANY DBZ character.

(In a thread of this sort, the least you can do is keep away from double-posting. --LegendarySSJ7)

nghong · 09-02-2008

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Originally Posted by mindmenglish

some people like to compare SS goku to superman

there even a fanart pic show superman punch SS1 goku on the face

so who dbz fighter equals to superman? ( strength, speed, power )

Raditz? ( he catch a rifle bullet with his bare hand n return it with his thumb killing the farmer ) errr, right?

if not, how much power level superman have? 10,000? 100,000?

comparing superman to raditz? so i assume you are reffering to superman justice league

i don't think superman JL is as strong as the 1st super saiya

i would say he is strong as base goku ( based on the movie fight scene with android 14 and 15 in the city)

power level? i would say 10,000,000

p/s: has it been more than 15 years already?

m.collins · 09-02-2008

Superman is probitly as strong as Yamcha in Cell games saga

Rudol_Ichiga · 09-02-2008

And you say this because?

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