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Madness · 07-11-2008

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Originally Posted by JC#1

I just don't really believe that. I mean, kinda-ish I believe something like a subconscious, but the concept that we're thinking something we aren't really thinking I don't believe. I think people "subconsciously" make up there subconsciousness accidentally in their head, as an excuse to themselves for anything they've done that they can't understand, or as a reason for unexplained events within one's mind.

Like TGD said, if your mind works, you have a subconcious.

**Inuyasha16** · 07-11-2008

Conscious/Subconscious

The mind has two parts: the conscious and the subconscious. A useful analogy is an iceberg. The conscious mind is the bit that sticks out of the water. The subconscious mind is the bit hidden away underneath the surface.
The subconscious is where all the things that you have learnt to do without thinking are done.
For instance, when you first drove a car, you had to consciously work out where to put each foot and how to use each new control. As your driving skills developed, you handed more and more control over to your subconscious mind. Now you are so proficient that you can drive, navigate and talk to your passenger all at the same time!
The subconscious works in a different way to the conscious mind:

The Conscious Mind The Subconscious Mind The conscious mind uses rational thoughtThe subconscious processes symbols The conscious is good at working out how to do thingsThe subconscious is good at doing things for you (skills and habits) The conscious works hard at understanding thingsThe subconscious doesn't care HOW something works, it will use the first thing it comes across irrespective of how well it works The conscious mind is apt to waste time figuring things out for the sake of itThe subconscious will carry on doing things a certain way even when it is abundantly clear that it is not in your best interests. The Subconscious Processes Symbols?

Yes; for example, you see an object which has four legs, and a flat surface about three feet off the ground, and you instantly recognise it as a 'table'. It could be any colour or it could be made of wood, glass, metal or plastic - you would still recognise it immediately.
You could walk into a room you've never been in before, see an object matching this description but of a design you've never come across and made of a material you've never seen, and yet you would put something onto this 'table' without a second thought.
Subconscious in Control

Surprisingly, it is the subconscious that can be in control of our behaviour most of the time. Once you realise that, a lot of things begin to make sense. This is the reason people find it very difficult to stop smoking - they have consciously decided that smoking is bad for their health, costs a fortune, is ruining their complexion, etc. However, they have not taken into account their subconscious reasons for wanting to carry on smoking. Go back to the iceberg analogy; if the little bit at the top wants to go one way and the huge bit at the bottom wants to go the other way, guess who's going to win? That's why it is very difficult to give up smoking without professional help.
The Subconscious Mind and Human Behaviour

Once you understand about the role of the subconscious, you can understand where a lot of odd behaviour comes from. People get stuck in a rut because their subconscious doesn't know how to change. People can get disturbing thoughts or feelings because the subconscious thinks that something bad is about to happen.

Madness · 07-11-2008

I was just about to bring up the subject of breathing, but Inuyasha's copy-paste has done the work! =D

~~JC#1~~ · 07-12-2008

I've just never heard propper evidence of our subconscious having any control over our behaviour. Maybe we do have subconsciousnesses but I don't think it controls anything.

The Green Dragon · 07-12-2008

That's why its called an unconscious, because you're unaware of it. It acts automatically, dur.

Honestly, if you aren't affected by your unconscious then you're either totally brainless, or dead.

Madness · 07-12-2008

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Originally Posted by JC#1

I've just never heard propper evidence of our subconscious having any control over our behaviour. Maybe we do have subconsciousnesses but I don't think it controls anything.

D'you think about single breath you take? When someone throws a ball, d'you calculate the exact place it'll be so you can catch it? No. Subconcious in action my friend...

~~JC#1~~ · 07-12-2008

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Originally Posted by Madness

D'you think about single breath you take? When someone throws a ball, d'you calculate the exact place it'll be so you can catch it? No. Subconcious in action my friend...

than our subconsciousness appearantly controls our smooth muscle an instant reflexes, big deal. I don't think it has any control beyond that.

Madness · 07-12-2008

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Originally Posted by JC#1

than our subconsciousness appearantly controls our smooth muscle an instant reflexes, big deal. I don't think it has any control beyond that.

Yes it does. You'll see...

SSJBulma · 07-12-2008

I think shit happens is a good analogy of these sort of incidences =/

Madness · 07-12-2008

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I think shit happens is a good analogy of these sort of incidences =/

Damn true, though sometimes they aren't that bad.

The Green Dragon · 07-13-2008

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Originally Posted by JC#1

than our subconsciousness appearantly controls our smooth muscle an instant reflexes, big deal. I don't think it has any control beyond that.

Christ do you behave like an idiot or purpose or are you not aware of it at all?

If you aren't aware of it, it's your subconscious playing up.

Affecting your actions.

If it isn't your subconscious, you're playing the idiot card for lulz.

It's failing.

Now STFU.

~~JC#1~~ · 07-13-2008

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

Christ do you behave like an idiot or purpose or are you not aware of it at all?

If you aren't aware of it, it's your subconscious playing up.

Affecting your actions.

If it isn't your subconscious, you're playing the idiot card for lulz.

It's failing.

Now STFU.

Its not filing, I'm lulzing

Like I care if other members lulz with me.

The Green Dragon · 07-13-2008

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Its not filing, I'm lulzing

Like I care if other members lulz with me.

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filing

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filing

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filing

Shut up, that's not even a word.

Anyway we've already established that your either brain dead or an idiot subconsciously.

~~JC#1~~ · 07-13-2008

yeah, like someone on MFG knows anything about me. lol

The Green Dragon · 07-13-2008

Well you don't have a subconscious do you JC, you said so above.

Meaning you're being a braindead idiot or purpose, or you're actually braindead.

Facts > Assumptions.

Why acting so irate? You were the one above that wanted to make a big deal about you not having a subconscious, I'm mealy agreeing with you... you have no functioning brain.

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07-11-2008	#17 (permalink)
Inuyasha16 Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,811 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 39	Re: Have you ever.... Conscious/Subconscious The mind has two parts: the conscious and the subconscious. A useful analogy is an iceberg. The conscious mind is the bit that sticks out of the water. The subconscious mind is the bit hidden away underneath the surface. The subconscious is where all the things that you have learnt to do without thinking are done. For instance, when you first drove a car, you had to consciously work out where to put each foot and how to use each new control. As your driving skills developed, you handed more and more control over to your subconscious mind. Now you are so proficient that you can drive, navigate and talk to your passenger all at the same time! The subconscious works in a different way to the conscious mind: The Conscious Mind The Subconscious Mind The conscious mind uses rational thoughtThe subconscious processes symbols The conscious is good at working out how to do thingsThe subconscious is good at doing things for you (skills and habits) The conscious works hard at understanding thingsThe subconscious doesn't care HOW something works, it will use the first thing it comes across irrespective of how well it works The conscious mind is apt to waste time figuring things out for the sake of itThe subconscious will carry on doing things a certain way even when it is abundantly clear that it is not in your best interests. The Subconscious Processes Symbols? Yes; for example, you see an object which has four legs, and a flat surface about three feet off the ground, and you instantly recognise it as a 'table'. It could be any colour or it could be made of wood, glass, metal or plastic - you would still recognise it immediately. You could walk into a room you've never been in before, see an object matching this description but of a design you've never come across and made of a material you've never seen, and yet you would put something onto this 'table' without a second thought. Subconscious in Control Surprisingly, it is the subconscious that can be in control of our behaviour most of the time. Once you realise that, a lot of things begin to make sense. This is the reason people find it very difficult to stop smoking - they have consciously decided that smoking is bad for their health, costs a fortune, is ruining their complexion, etc. However, they have not taken into account their subconscious reasons for wanting to carry on smoking. Go back to the iceberg analogy; if the little bit at the top wants to go one way and the huge bit at the bottom wants to go the other way, guess who's going to win? That's why it is very difficult to give up smoking without professional help. The Subconscious Mind and Human Behaviour Once you understand about the role of the subconscious, you can understand where a lot of odd behaviour comes from. People get stuck in a rut because their subconscious doesn't know how to change. People can get disturbing thoughts or feelings because the subconscious thinks that something bad is about to happen. __________________ Serious Discussion & Debate posters read this.

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~~JC#1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,806 Rep Power: 0	Re: Have you ever.... I've just never heard propper evidence of our subconscious having any control over our behaviour. Maybe we do have subconsciousnesses but I don't think it controls anything.

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~~JC#1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,806 Rep Power: 0	Re: Have you ever.... yeah, like someone on MFG knows anything about me. lol