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Old 10-30-2004   #16 (permalink)
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And where did microsoft say this?
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I've seen it several places including TV.
Appently Mocrosoft is switching graphics people and the
old company dosen't wanna give up their trade secrets or
some shit like that.

"Sourses close to Microsoft's senior Xbox executives have confirmed that the company does not intend to make its next-generation console, which is set to be launched by late 2005, backwards compatible with existing Xbox software.

Speculation about the backwards compatibility functionality has been rife since it emerged that Xbox 2 - codenamed Xenon - will have radically different hardware to the original system, with a non-x86 processor, no hard drive and an ATI, rather than NVIDIA, graphics chipset, all of which would make running Xbox titles on the platform very difficult.

It was widely believed, however, that Microsoft had retained a team of hardware emulation experts to work on the problem - although concerns over the viability of such an endeavour were voiced by some experts, especially regarding the company's ability to emulate the functions of the graphics unit in the Xbox without violating NVIDIA's intellectual property rights.

GamesIndustry.biz has now learned that Microsoft does not plan to provide any backwards compatibility in the next-generation Xenon platform - and indeed, that senior executives at the company don't believe backwards compatibility to be an important feature for consoles.

According to a source close to the project, internal Microsoft figures suggest that only 10 per cent of PlayStation 2 purchasers were interested in the console's ability to play titles developed for the original PlayStation.

Although this still represents some seven million consumers on a global basis - which is around half of Microsoft's entire installed base for Xbox - the company apparently believes that allowing consumers to play existing Xbox titles on the next-generation hardware would not be a significant deciding factor for Xenon purchasers.

However, a report into the videogames industry published today by Wedbrush Morgan Securities senior vice president Michael Pachter disagrees with this conclusion - arguing that failing to provide backward compatibility could have the effect of alienating Microsoft's existing Xbox installed base.

"In the event that Xbox Next is not backward compatible, we think that the device will be very slow to grow its footprint," the report warns, while elsewhere it suggests that such a move could damage the company's long-term prospects for the console.

"We do expect Microsoft to launch its console first, perhaps as early as 2005," says Pachter. "Should it choose to do so without backward compatibility or significant third-party software support, we expect to see its first-mover advantage evaporate."
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So XBOX 2 is supposed to come out early 2005 then the Revolution and PS3 will come out around that same time then.
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I herd PS3 and xbox2 will be like 700 bucks? i really hope not!
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No, I don't think so the people has a high chance of lying just to make them sound like they spoke with the real companies.
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The PS3 & XBOX 2 will most likely be around $300. If it is like $700 then talk about the biggest bomb in console history. No one will buy that. I know I won't. I'll just start buying all the PS2 games I don't own before I pay $700 for a new console.
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Well the ps2 was 500 $ when it came out so ps3 could be atlleast 500? but i notice prices for systems / comps anything like that are dropping so
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Yeah for instance the Nintendo DS it costs $149.99 so the prices of consoles are rapidly dropping.
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holy only 150???????? well gamecube is only 99.99 im una bert ps3 will be 399.99 lets see if im right
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Well the ps2 was 500 $ when it came out so ps3 could be atlleast 500? but i notice prices for systems / comps anything like that are dropping so

Whoa....the PS2 was not $500. It was $300. I bought it right before the price drop. It totally sucked.
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Ya well i live in canada so everything is more expensve and i know it was 500 cuz my bro payed 300 and my parents payed 200 and xbox i sjut bought for 199.99
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Yeah. I got the ps2 when it was 200 bucks. The ps3 will range from 300 to 350. Nothing more
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Hope its not $500 because if it is forget it wait until it goes down a lot .
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Hi guys, alow me to give my professional insight.


Xbox 2 (which I call Next X...yes, I said it first) is set for end of 2005 and barring a miracle of technology, it will not be backward compatable.

Nintendo Revolution will come next. Expect it before PS3, perhaps only by a few weeks, in late 2006. Backwards comptailty is almost guranteed. The DS is a test by Nintendo to see what kinds of games gamers truly want and how do they truly want to play them. This will help dictate what the Reovolution is.
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Well, the next Xbox is to be called "Xenon" for some reason unknown to me. And what you say about the Xbox not being backwards compatible is just not true. Microsoft is looking into an application called "QuickTransit" developed by The Transitive Corp. of California that would allow any platform to emulate another type of software regardless of which processor and hardware it has. This would allow the Xenon to play Xbox titles with no slowdown at all. However it will be made sure that the Xenon cannot play titles from another companies system if they indeed do decide to use QuickTransit. And the PS3 will not come out at the end of 2006. It's more like the end of 2005(not likely at all) to the beginning of 2006.

And I work at a Gamestop guys, my info is reliable.
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