Offical Nintendo Thread

[Rudol_Ichiga]

Mario spin-off are greatly done, they are not crappy. And they are non-canon to the storyline, so Mario is just a plumber IRL.
The cash-cows like DW, Tekken, Soul Calibur. Those are the ones that get crappy with time.

[LordMe]

Originally Posted by SpanktheMonkey

Really dunno what DW6 is sorry there LM. =/

Its seems these days that if a game has too many sequals that people tend to cry cash-cow. I definately have to agree that some games and franchises turn stale and I agree that Mario has taken some pretty bad career choices recently. Mario is a plumber... A fat one at that, I think its time he give up trying to play Sports because face it, he aint too much good at it.

It would be worse though, if say Mario decided he needed a face lift and turned all badass and super-actionhero-hyped up. Yes I'm looking at you Bomberman.

EDIT: Oh, Dynasty Warriors, right?

I don't call anything that has too many games a cash-cow. I just think that if your trying to make an epic game to reset standards, then should the story be longer then 7 hours?

As for SMG, I tried it. It was fun until it tried to be creative and "innovative". Then it just became a crappy, bad camera platformer. You say don't fix what is not broken. Well that is what Nintendo tried. And then they broke it.

Tekken and SC are fighting games, a revolution or complete reinvision of those games would cost them every fan they had. And I'll give ya DW after playing 6.

What I am saying is Nintendo does need to try something new, instead of keeping the same 20 year old games they have been doing. No they don't need to ditch the old ones, but with the ammount of money they are making why can't they try something?

[SpanktheMonkey]

A better definition of a Cash Cow, would be Guitar Hero, who people seem to be turning on because they feel the need to release a new game every year. However just because a game has many recreations doesnt mean that its necissarily milking the series.

A Cash Cow is the term given to a product or franchise that its creators and marketers don't believe have a very long life-span and so they try to milk it for all its worth by hyping it up and making other versions that will sell on the Product name alone. Hell, I gotta admit, even I was excited to hear that there was a new Guitar Hero game, even if I don't even like Aerosmith. >_>

I agree, some Mario sports games are fun, but alot of them are just gimmicky and are solf on the name alone. People think 'Oh, its Mario, he's not a bad kart driver, maybe I wouldnt mind playing Baseball with him' even when in the back of their head they are thinking, 'I dont even like baseball'.
Granted that is usually the thought process of mainstream gamers, while those who consider themselves hardcore gamers sit back and bitch that such a company is milking a certain franchise... Often on the internet... On forums....

Wait, wut? Oh damn.

Also non-cannon Mario? Beside Paper Mario/RPG/etc. Until a couple years back the only cannon story line Mario had was. "Mario, I've baked a cake and would like you to come to my castle to eat some. [signed] Peach".

Jokes aside, I don't think a Mario GTA would be on the cards any time soon... Atleast not until Sony or Microsoft buy out Nintendo and decide to take him down the path of Bomberman.

[Teecee]

A violent Mario game would be awesome.

Especially if it involved some sort of competitive multiplayer full of customized Italian plumbers running around gunning at eachother.

[Neji_hokage]

Originally Posted by Rudol_Ichiga

Mario spin-off are greatly done, they are not crappy. And they are non-canon to the storyline, so Mario is just a plumber IRL.
The cash-cows like DW, Tekken, Soul Calibur. Those are the ones that get crappy with time.

Tekken and Sc are awesome man. dont diss them.

[Rudol_Ichiga]

I liked the first Tekken, but the rest are reused crap. Soul Calibur never appealed to me, so I dizzed them if I want to.

[Neji_hokage]

yeah well,
edit : No offense to those nintendo fanboys out there..im just saying.

k fine whatever..go back to your fatass plumber that needs a weight check..lol just kidding.

[Rudol_Ichiga]

At least he is the most popular videogame icon in the world. Lol.
So you go back to your anime-esque fighting games. JK.

[SpanktheMonkey]

Soul Calibre only ever appealed to me because I could play as Link, I played all the way through Story mode and attained all weapons for him and one or two other characters before I realised that I really didnt enjoy the game.
I guess the main idea I liked though, is that while it was a multi-console game, it brang something new to each version. Maybe something that other multi-platform games could try incorporating some time [and shit like downloadable content before another console just doesnt cut it].

I'm definately not denying that a bad ass Mario would be fun. It worked bloody well for Conker [back in Rare's hayday] and if done right the appropriate developing team could pull it off. I'm just thinking that Nintendo - you know 'kiddie nintendo' - would never ruin the image of their biggest icon.

What Nintendo really needs it to get back into the good books with some powerhouse developing teams. Patch things up with SE and Capcom. Fight to get things the gamers want [I remember at the start of the year Ninty and MS were fighting over the rights to release online Goldeneye for their VCs]. Still focus on their gimmicky projects, but maintain a standard for the rest of the gaming market. Pump some money into upcoming developing teams and stick with them [Nintendo seem to get a new developer that creates something new and great, then they just dissappear into nowhere].

My favourite idea though? Get things like Resident Evil back into their repitoire [sp?], RE4 was sick on the Gamecube, but REmake4 on the Wii was nth times better. I pretty much prefer my 360 over Wii these days, but I would shell out for Wii RE5 over 360 RE5

[Neji_hokage]

Originally Posted by Rudol_Ichiga

At least he is the most popular videogame icon in the world. Lol.
So you go back to your anime-esque fighting games. JK.

So?


honestly, i think sega and nintendo should make a crossover, of mario and sonic, teaming up.

i think it would be good.

[Crayne]

With the quality of modern Sonic games, that's a no.

[Rudol_Ichiga]

But in the new game we can turn into a wolf. What's more awesome than that? /sarcasm.

[Neji_hokage]

Originally Posted by Crayne

With the quality of modern Sonic games, that's a no.

they did it with mario and sonic the oylmpic games; i dont see why the can't.

Sonic unleashed looks good.

[QuickLearner]

When I hear terms like "cannon storyline" applied to a series like Mario, I can't help but laugh. Mario games are all completely self-contained stories. There aren't ever any loose ends at the end, and no game is a direct sequel to another. Every single mario game ever made can feasible be placed in a timeline, but it doesn't matter, as the only way to do it that would even seem to have any pattern would be to just do it by release date.

On the other hand...

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When you take Mario's age into account, the fact that he hasn't aged much over the years would suggest that the games all happened very, very quickly, but that's disproven by the fact that Bowser would need time to

Have 7 children/rebuild all his castles/steal 105 power stars/build a hot tub in a volcano and power it with Shine sprites plus give his son a magic paintbrush stolen from Professor E. Gadd/steal all the stars from Rosalina(Rosetta in japan)'s observatory and establish a Capital in the center of the universe.

Also, Mario would likely be traumatized by the events in Luigi's Mansion, which is probably why he went on vacation to Isle Delfino. Mario must have been a total jerk not to take Luigi with him...

And then there's Super Mario 64 DS. I don't know if this is considered a retelling of Mario 64, but if it isn't, then why would Wario and Luigi show up when Peach invited only Mario? Why would Bowser try the exact same plan twice?

The castle must have been renovated to look like it did in SMG. I would normally say it happened while Peach was away at Isle Delfino suring SMS, but that's impossible, as the exterior hadn't been renovated before Mario 64 DS, which came out after SMS. Possibly, it was being renovated at the time of Bowser's attack, explaining the differences inside, but they must not have been finished yet, as the exterior looked the same as it did in the original N64 game. maybe he attacked halfway through the renovations, right after the interior was finished, and Peach called Mario over just so he could take a look around the new inside. No, wait, scratch that, One of the rooms added was Peach's childhood playroom, which can't have been new, unless it was somehow ripped out of another castle where she grew up and crammed into the Mushroom Kingdom castle...

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[Shirogetsu]

Originally Posted by SSJJason

Sonic unleashed looks good.

Major difference between looking good though and actually playing good.