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Killing off the hero himself would be pretty... big. But they still want to seel comics, etc, so... he'll probably be back. Which sucks... I like him, but him dying seems so much more awesome. He's a martyr that way.

Yeah... I knew of that, just... wondering if it was a case of "Ho shit, she's suddenly snapped".
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It was a bold move to kill Captain America, but Marvel's made their choice and they better stick to it.

One More Day and Brand New Day are weird ways of trying to undo the Clone Saga and make Spider-Man single, and therefore, appear "younger" and more acessible to readers.

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They killed of J'onn in DC just there now.
OMD made me not pick up another Spiderman since, not sure what will change my mind now.
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Yeah... dunno if I'll get any Spidey stuff, since... I prefer Mary Jane, but I do think he should have stayed married and had a kid. Hence why "The Gathering of Five" with Aunt May rather than Baby May pissed me off.

Harry's back though, which is a major plus.
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Aunt May would of been pissed off if she knew what he did. I like Spiderman in action, but Peter Parker is a depressing git, who likes that he has problems and overdramatises the problems he has and titles himself the worst of the worst.
Wolverine is guilty of that sometimes, but alot of the time he doesn't make dreary lengthy inner monologues about it.
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It was a bold move to kill Captain America, but Marvel's made their choice and they better stick to it.

One More Day and Brand New Day are weird ways of trying to undo the Clone Saga and make Spider-Man single, and therefore, appear "younger" and more acessible to readers.

Jackpot lololol.
Yeah, because you can't be a regular guy and have a happy marriage.

Fuck you, Quesada.

Also, Jackpot is fucked up. If she's Mary Jane, as is heavily hinted, then she's got powers, and then it becomes like Black Panther and Storm, or Reed and Susan Richards (Sue Skrull lololol) and part of the dynamic is gone. If she's not, then all the hints are totally pointless and stupid.

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Yeah... dunno if I'll get any Spidey stuff, since... I prefer Mary Jane, but I do think he should have stayed married and had a kid. Hence why "The Gathering of Five" with Aunt May rather than Baby May pissed me off.

Harry's back though, which is a major plus.
Harry's resurrection is cool, but his death was one of those things that haunted Peter and generally served as quite the driving force for him at times. Deadpool puts it well as he refers to Weasel and Bob, "I call them a loyal supporting cast, and I don't need to make a deal with Mephisto to have them, either!"
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Aunt May would of been pissed off if she knew what he did. I like Spiderman in action, but Peter Parker is a depressing git, who likes that he has problems and overdramatises the problems he has and titles himself the worst of the worst.
Wolverine is guilty of that sometimes, but alot of the time he doesn't make dreary lengthy inner monologues about it.
Aunt May didn't want to die... there was an issue in which Madame Webb helped Peter do a sort of seance to contact Aunt May, to urge her out of her coma and she said she didn't want to return.

Sure, Peter's depressing at times, but what pulls me to Spider-Man is that despite all the crap that happens to him, he's all the well-humored jokester. He put on the Black Suit after 20 years (discounting one incident), but that was after his beloved aunt got shot. Even then, he wasn't depressed so much as pissed the fuck off. You don't mess with angry Spider-Man.

My main problems with Brand New Day are the following:
1) Mary Jane Watson-Parker becomes Mary Jane Watson. Peter loses a great supporting character. 20 years of continuity down the drain. Apparently, a buncha people don't die if Peter doesn't get married. Somehow.
2) All of J. Michael Straczynski's work on Amazing Spider-Man is put down the shitter. No Morlun, no Shathra, no Ezekiel, no The Other, no nothing.

I'm cool with the whole identity restored to secrecy bit. I even like that. But the thing is, BND, no matter what pluses it has, has been carried out horribly. The plots suck, the characters are shallow, the dialogue isn't as punchy as it was, and the art is generally unattractive. Luckily, JRJR who worked with Straczynski for the majority of his run, is coming back for New Ways To Die, the upcoming ASM story arc with my all time favorite Spider-Villain, Venom, Eddie Brock (Possibly the new Anti-Venom), Mary Jane, and Norman Osborn (We'll see how he acts in the new Spider-World).

And one last thing. Norman Osborn's supposed to not remember Peter's ID, which is absolutely ridiculous, as he is essentially responsible for the death of Gwen Stacy (Even though Peter technically snapped her neck). He killed her because he knew who Peter was and knew she was close to him. It takes the weight out of the whole incident and a lot of the emotional weight from Peter's shoulders. It goes from, "She was killed because I loved her... I can never love anyone again!" to "She was killed because the Green Goblin is a maniac... I have to stop him!" It becomes... generic, let's say.

I dunno. Maybe this is just the mad raving of an angry Spider-Nerd. Or maybe just a fan who longs for quality in his favorite character's series.
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Thinking about it... what is the issue with married Spidey that nessecitated such a drastic way out? A character should move forward with his series, if only in eperiences; thats one of the reasons DBZ got boring, because the main characters were rather shallow and apaprently had no past experiences. Spidey was moved out of college into marriage because they needed new stories to tell... keeping him married would give access of all sorts of new storylines, and fatherhood would make even more of that. It may age a character, but... shit. A guy whose a father, a loving husband, etc is a much greater hero than a "hip cool single spandex wearing wall crawler!"

And, if Marvel has such trouble with the character… why Mephisto? Why Magic, of all things?! I could think of a very easy way to dissolve their marriage, using what they had already built on, which would still let them use “cool” Spidey and cross with the movie. The black suit.

It’s a product of the animated show, I know, but that suit is too much linked to Venom. In Back in Black, Petey pulls it on, and makes a lot of resolutions, that he’s going to find the person who shot Aunt May, and proclaims “I’ll kill them.” In the rest of it, he remarks himself how he’s becoming more of a criminal, is wearing a loose jacket, etc. Considering Mary Jane was so terrified of Spidey in the black suit after Venom showed up, wouldn’t seeing Peter like this, on a crazed vendetta scare her even more? I’m reminded of Angel, when he temporarily goes from “helping the helpless to giving justice to the guilty”. That would have been a great way to show that, to show an out of control Spidey, and how power corrupts; with the added stress of Mays death, totally excusable for Mary Jane to want a break, if nothing else.

I’d still prefer the marriage to stick around, but that seems more plausible than a deal with the Prince of Lies.

About Norman not knowing now… the fuck? Do they intend on making him 1970’s Norman again, where he was… actually fairly sympathetic, a loving father and who didn’t know he was the Green Goblin? He’s Spideys premier villain- to have that knowledge torn from him is as dumb as the Gathering of Five. It also means that Black Cat hasn’t a hope in hell of remembering, and she seems to be the ‘hot young attractive women’ Marvel wants surrounding it’s main hero. A Peter-Felicia storyline would be interesting…

Harry’s death was cool, and moving, but it was just another phase out of the Spider cast. As long as he’s used in the storylines and a regular character I want him to be back; it’ll be interesting to see how they’ll weave the whole ‘Norman Osborn is the Gree Goblin’ thing around him, given his fathers position on the Thunderbolts. In general, I do want to see how Normans been affected by all this… but Harry being back is good, I think. It means more supporting cast; as I said, my first collection started with Ben taking up the spider threads-hence my affection or the character. Jonah, Betty, Flash, Robbie and everyone else(I found out afterwards ay was dead >__>;;) never showed up, which sucked like hell; hopefully this’ll correct that.

And, althought I know he was killed, and OMD probably wiped him from eistance, once again... Bring Back Ben Reilly. Seriously. Am I the only guy here who would buy a series with him in it?
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So it seems like the identity of the special mutant baby has been revealed (or has it?), in it's eyes, though it was given away already with other clues. THE BIG HEAD OF GINGER HAIR for starters.
In the latest issue of Cable it seems that you see the Phoenix symbol relfected in the babies eyes. So is it really Jean Grey? If so, then wtf?
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Its Jean Grey. Did any of us really expect her to stay dead? Honestly?


Not being up to date on X-Men, I do't really know about the kid- I get the general stuation, but no details. Therefore, throwing cautio to the wind and suggesting a wild theory.
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Nate Grey.

He like... died and became one withthe planet, didn't he? Reincaration.
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The baby is a girl. Is could be Rachel, even though her adult form is here or it could be none of the Greys. Gotta love how there's so many Greys and very few summers when they're all genetically somehow related to Jean and Scott.

I have no time for Scott Summers anyway.
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Oh right. My bad then... it being Nate would be... awkward. Though I did read some theory about Wolvy being Rachaels father...

But... I rather like Cyke, possibly because he's unpopular.*shrugs* Are there any other mutant Greys running around, aside from Racheal and Jean?
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It could be a symbol for something. I'm not sure, sometimes I'm not sure if Marvel are sure. They need to focus on HoM being wrapped and Wanda. She goes from doing one of the most powerful amazing feates ever in MU to just vanishing, only to pop up and sleep with Hawkeye. Wtf?

I liked oldschool Cyclops, then he cheated with Emma and became an overall dick. I think Storm needs to take full charge of the X-men in Xaviers absence, but she's busy with her random marriage to T'Challa in Wakanda.

Cable is another spawn of Grey/Summer genes.
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Bah. I'm sorry to say it, guys, but I dislike Cyclops. Wolverine, Colossus, Nightcrawler, even Cable (I don't generally like Godly powerful figures except like the Silver Surfer), I like 'em all. But Cyclops? OHHH, I'M STUNNINGLY HANDSOME AND I GET HOT CHICKS AND I'M SUPER RICH AND THE LEADER OF AN AWESOME TEAM BUT PITY ME BECAUSE I CAN'T TAKE OFF MY GLASSES. Neither can my grandmother. She's blind otherwise. But I guess I like Cyclops enough as a supporting character only.

Spider-Man and Deadpool need their own series outside their regular continuity. Spidey had, like, three or four going at once, then they were all fused into Amazing Spider-Man. So outside of Amazing Spider-Man and Deadpool ongoing (THIS SEPTEMBER! HELL YES!), they should have like Spidey & Deadpool, just cracking jokes and being generally awesome.
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There are no comic book shops near me. I need a car to get there and the closest one is pretty damn far! Damn miami
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