Halcyon

I posted a new chapter of Fluxing Divinities. Not action-packed, or even containing any action, really. Read it if you want to, if you don't, oh well.

Crayne

New chapter(number 48) posted in Fatal Decision. Let's just say, it's the beginning of the end.

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the predator

Wtf is DKA? and what the hell is team beta? i might 've noticed it if it was on the updated list. but...never heard of those two before. No offense who wrote it but i didn't like hell's birth in the least........the format was way too....squashed. Never read past the first chappie which i forgot how it was.

Saiyan tales was absolute class....good fic but i don't read DBZ fics anymore so if DKA and Team Beta are dbz fics than that's why i haven't read them....

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Halcyon

I think DKA was "Demon King Akira."

.Shadow Punk

QUOTE(Halcyon @ Dec 29 2005, 09:55 PM)
I think DKA was "Demon King Akira."Bingo.

Yeah, I remember the ole' days...DKA was so popular...but sucked so bad.

Also, do I have to earn my fic back into Elite...or can it go back? I was actually like the second person to be put in there, after Saiyan Tales I think. It got taken out when I got banned.

Punxx

That's actually a good question. And to be honest I'm not exactly sure. I'd say yeah it can go back but let me confer with Pivitor and Engel on this so that we can all decide. Let me just say I'll get back to you on that one.

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Very hard to say....well:

Machiavelli
First on the list because of his grand plots and great describtion....The skill he uses these days...however pales in comparison to the skill he used in other fics...His new installment 'Tears of the Phoenix' cannot be judged yet but as of now...in my opinion it doesen't have enough quality to be with the other top stories...yet its only just begun and i haven't seen the plot yet so i can't really judge....

Xyex
Second on the list....he/she has the same qualities as Machiavelli but to a slightly lower extent....he/she is more good at plot than describtion but still is a very good writer. I admire his/her capabilities out of seeing a number of different stories from him/her. One of them being about mirai trunks...these last few days its not been going well for his/her writing career as many have decided to ignore her/his once epic dbz series AH. He/She has currently produced 'Hand of Fate' and from what i see its the most excellent fic in the number of my opinion these days....

7th son
Fame from his first fic: Saiyan Tales....7th son skyrocketed to the top...His describtion is average but his Creativity is far more excellent than Xyex or Machiavelli.....Producing three fics each related to one another 7th son is on the verge or has published his own comic....He is the star of MFG...Unfortunetly he hasn't been seen for awhile.....who knows?

Pivitor
He has the one thing which i always look for in fics and that quality AND quantity....I've only read one fic of his and that would be: A different GT....But judging from the amount of replies he gets from 'The Ultimate Cruise' i'd say he deserves a spot on the list. Wonderful fiction all around.


Sylvia (alas)
Like 7th son she has the ability to dumbfound the audience without using a high variety of describtion. But she does contain an above average level of it. Her epic fic 'Seeds of Evil' was 'Saiyan Tales' archest rival. But With Sylvia 's departure...'seeds of evil' has long been removed. She had other fictions which were highly rated as well but none as notorious as 'Seeds of Evil'

Punxx
Punxx's first fic 'The Awakening' was a tremendous hit leaving average writers in the dust. He was immediately awarded on the elite board....The Awakening was discontinued however due to Punxx's long term absence. HIs next epic: Matsuwei's tome : the journey within had an altogether average plot but with Punxx's amazing storytelling abilities the story flourished...Punxx has also produced a one-shot dubbed 'Silence' and it was also a highly rated. Punxx may be on the bottom of the list but he's still a classic writer.

Top 6...no one on their lvl i believe.....Except maybe some good ones like Eglaya or Engel but i haven't checked their fics out so i wouldn't know...actually i think there are many that would rival their capabilities but These are my favorite 6 so...sorry. heh


btw i made it seem like they were celebrities incase you haven't noticed.....lol

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This is pretty much an "open" discussion thread, right? I would like to know how you guys feel about description versus story. Some people abosuletely will hate a story if there is no description at. The grammar, spelling, and story can be great and people will still not like it because of description.

Some times descirpiton is seriously overrated. Just because you describe your story well, doesn't mean it is good. I have seen great writers with great talent to describe their story, but have horrible story telling. Bad story, bad dialouge and all that.

Then there are the "great" ones who have both or what not.

So my question, would you continually read a story without great description, if the story and everything else is good, or would you not read it because you need great description to get into the story?

On my behalf, description is not the first thing I look at. I love stories that can make me exicted about the next chapter. I look at story first, then probably grammar...then description. Sometimes less description can actually be better. Some of the greatest writers in our time have not had good description skills. Look at C.S Lewis, Chronicles of Narnira. The man was a great writer, but didn't describe his surroundings that much. Some thing this is great, since this leaves people's imaginations go wild. Some hate it, wanting to know everything in the scene.

Yeah...my rant. Answer the question if you like. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/naruto_kakashi_^^.gif[/img]

Halcyon

I'd go for description. Description can make anything good, if you pull it off correctly. It doesn't have to be tethered to the story directly; a lot of comedic authors tend to trail off onto some other subject while writing, and it makes for more entertainment than sticking straight to the main story.

Now, sadly, it seems that a lot of the stories on MFG seem to be lacking in both. They have the dumbest fuck storylines, and describe things with extremely boring and straight-forward sentences. It's about on the same level as speed chat fighting.

So, yeah. I'd much rather go for a well-written story about a turd playing with his nuggets (hahaha), instead of a story about an African American drug ring lord changing his ways and devoting his life to freeing orphan childrens from their dictator military leaders, but it's written like it came straight from a Highlights sent-in story from some overweight 8-year-old named Courtney.

.Pivitor

Description is needed in a story. A story without one really isn't a story.

However, the amounts vary according to the author's skills, and honestly every story doesn't need the same amount of description. Notorious's story, Into the Depths, had a pretty weak story, but I enjoyed reading it nevertheless because of the description, which was completele urple but I just found it beautiful and entertaining to read.

However, a writer like, say, Xyex, who has a bit more story but less description. I'd say nine out of ten times the story makes up for the lack of description.

I think (again) Twitch and Manic (Halcyon and Speedy Cat now, god I hate name changes) are good examples of balance. They describe the scene and characters, and vary their descriptions, but they don't bog the story down. And it has a good story to back it up.

It's one of the factors I worry about the most. If I have a fight with a character who's actions can become repetitive (In my current fic at the current time, Sanji), I make damn sure to liven it up with different word choices and the such.

So description is a much, but not every story needs the same amount. In the end the feeling passed across is the most important, and you use the proper amount of description to convey what you want to convey.

Machiavelli

Another chapter's up. I know the Predator will read, but I guess that's about it. Read if you want, if you don't - oh well.

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Machiavelli your new installment rocks i love it as i loved your writing always.

Now onwards to this describtion vs story thing...i say they both need each other....

The problem is balance....More story less describtion scenario: Sure its a good fic and people who overrate it just go: "10/10 this fic rockz" well really its not.....I don't consider 10/10 with real professional writers let alone US. Nothing's ever perfect. 9/10 if i couldn't stop reading because i held onto it with each chapter...which didn't really ever happen here. 8/10 means i love it and surely consider it one of the best around. 7/10 means above average
6/10 means it could be a good fic with time and 5/10 it passes...sorta.

i'm not gonna go any less than that anyway my point is....the rating increases if you have descirbtion to your fic....People are sometimes shocked by the way you describe things because they feel like they're there ...so much that they can't help but say its good even if its an average storyline. So imagine if you have a wonderful storyline and a wonderful describtion then people are:

Describtion without storyline: you could pull it off and get a nice rating...but your descibtion has to be real good....(notorious good). Vocabulary at its fullest. But even then if it has a weak storyline it won't be rated so highly...Sure they'll review but they also absorb that your storyline is a great one so when they see a possibly slighlty better storyline....they'll go review another fic.

Describtion and Story have to walk hand in hand. Seperatly they're good....Together....They're freakin awesome.. and that's my conclusion boys and girls see you again next time....or when someone makes another point.

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Halcyon

A story is nothing without good description. Description goes along with good story-telling, unlike somebody said before. You don't want to read some mundane story where what's being described to you is really obvious--I like it when writers prolong revealing what exactly they're talking about, and it leaves you guessing up until that point.

Then you're like, "Oh, that wasn't a Christmas tree. It was a dead body!"

.Blacklisted

QUOTE(Machiavelli @ Dec 30 2005, 12:36 AM)
Another chapter's up.* I know the Predator will read, but I guess that's about it.* Read if you want, if you don't - oh well.


Dude, I'm readin your fic too. Just replied. I must say, from any piece of writing I've read, you've got the best description so far. Your fight scenes are awesome!