Multiple Characters

[JAIF]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Having double the characters is nothing like having double the members.

How not so?

Originally Posted by Vivi

As for the complications, just think about it, srsly. Keeping track of twice the amount of stuff,

Which would be the same as with having twice the members for everyone except the people using the extra character...

Originally Posted by Vivi

adding new rules, and restrictions.

I only see a few basic guidelines having to be implemented, and those are rather clear ones. I don't know why the Team and / or the members would add more than the basic ones.

Originally Posted by Vivi

It's just a load of crap that isn't needed in the first place.

If you really want to go there, the RPG isn't needed in the first place. I'm pretty sure people can live without text-RPing, right? But it's here, and it's here for a reason. Why not make it better while we're at it?

Originally Posted by Vivi

As for adding more members to the RPG Team, I'm pretty sure the team has always been three.

...the point being...? Besides, no. I quite clearly remember Gosan, Eragon, BI and Minion being in the RPG team at the same time.

[Vivi]

How not so?

Because, if one character posted something, then the second character could not have a follow-up post. Obviously that's a major difference.

Which would be the same as with having twice the members for everyone except the people using the extra character...

Ah, but, it would be much more productive to have twice the members than twice characters. Why would you want extra complication, without the benefits of extra members?

I only see a few basic guidelines having to be implemented, and those are rather clear ones. I don't know why the Team and / or the members would add more than the basic ones.

As already mentioned, there could be a new system of stamina sharing. It's just implementing things that aren't needed, or beneficial.

If you really want to go there, the RPG isn't needed in the first place. I'm pretty sure people can live without text-RPing, right? But it's here, and it's here for a reason. Why not make it better while we're at it?

I'm all for making it better, which is why I'm against having multiple characters.

...the point being...? Besides, no. I quite clearly remember Gosan, Eragon, BI and Minion being in the RPG team at the same time.

I was just saying that the team is efficient for what it's doing at this time, adding anything extra for such a pointless purpose would just require more of the mods, or have to have extra mods. The RPG is fine the way it is, adding all this stuff means much more work that isn't worth it.

[Madness]

Not at the moment. The option of more characters will only complicate things, and as a new RPer, I'm confused enough learning everything as it is.

[Lazlo]

You guys all need to relax. Nobody here is making a particularly good case for either side. IF second characters are aloud, which is a big IF, then it will be during a time where we have reletive stability.

[Pyro Bastard]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Dude, what's the point of talking to yourself in a single post? It doesn't add anything, in fact, it doesn't even create more activity. As for the conversation thing, in a saga you can only post once, thus the conversations couldn't continue unless a mod posted.

1. You don't understand, the complication IS the multiple characters.
2. That still doesn't change the fact that multiple characters affects those who choose not to.
3. You don't understand, yet again, they can't post more. That would imply double posting. Are you an advocate of double posting?
4. Like I said, Non-Cannon doesn't matter, it's irrelevant to the RPG.

Moderators have as much time as they make. As for family emergencies, that's what the RPG "team" is for. To cover each other's problems. The saga's are run by the mods, without them, how the hell are we supposed to post? Adding multiple characters doesn't solve anything. It just doubles the size of a single post. That's all. (And adds complications)

To be able to have a reason to post. If a person walks into a non-cannon thread and is basically ignored, he/she could post his characters talking to keep him busy. I'm not sayin' to double post, he could just talk in one post, wait, and talk again after someone else posts. I was using the saga as an example.

1. It wasn't complicated at all to use them. I thought it was quite easy.
2. Then create a second character. You don't want it, don't make it. You think it'll affect you badly, create a second one. It's your choice to create one or not. Even more so, how do you know that just usin' one character won't be better than usin' two. If there is a stamina restriction for you, it could work out better.
3. I don't understand? It's you that doesn't understand. I'm not sayin' to double post at all. The option of two characters allows you to post more often around the RPG. You can be in two fights at once. One in a saga and one in a fight. You can post in the bar with one character while you wait for another character to be responded to. That is what I meant by increasing the activity by creatin' more posts.
4. Non-cannon is one of the major parts of the RPG. Without it, the place would die out. It'd give characters almost no story. No background. Nothing to do except fight. It allows characters to talk. Beside sagas, it is the most important part of the RPG.

We can post by asking Punxx (the admin that who helps the RPG the most) to allow a senior member to be a temporary mod until another mod is able to take over. The complications made are very few. The only people it would make harder are the people actually using second characters and more things to keep track of for mods. However, if needed, the RPG team could always ask another to join if things became too much.

Anyways, granted I'd want a second character, I'd be fine waiting for it until the RPG is further along and the newer members have gotten the hanhg of most the basics. That way, the "complications" would be lessened.

[Lazlo]

The RPG team is fine in it's current state, saying that we need a new member is pretty much saying we don't do a good job as is. Three members is quite sufficient, having more creates too many problems.

[Pyro Bastard]

I wasn't sayin' the team isn't fine. >_> With the exception of the saga not bein' posted in for like a week now, y'all do just fine. I was just sayin' if things got too chaotic, y'all could always ask for some help from another senior RPer.

[burningvegeta]

He has a good point, training a new guy as some kind RPG senior; means less time on someones behalf. Another Mod, if not more.

[Island of 1,000 Condiments]

With as many character designs I could type up right now, multiple characters doesn't seem to be coming in the near future. We have so much work that the RPG needs doing. Personally, I'm rewriting the Races, Items, Descriptions, Rules, Clans, and a few other important aspects of the RPG. After all those are done, some more important implements take priority. Allowing multiple characters and creating a system to manage them is probably at the bottom of the list that we've barely started. Basically saying, we need to finish up everything on our plate before we go get more. There are so many RPG projects we're working on, and adding more isn't going to make it easier. Sure, we'll consider it, but don't expect anything soon.

[Nikushimi]

I agree that allowing second characters is of the lowest priority now.

But while we're on that subject, I should mention, that allowing them would not complicate things beyond what can be handled. Vivi makes it sound like we'd have to rewrite the system to accommodate the changes brought about by multiple characters. This is not true. We simply include a Stamina-sharing rule, if even that, and set up a list of guidelines in regards to the use of multiple characters, which really shouldn't require too much to be said.

If more than one character is too much for you, fine; don't have one. But some people- in fact, the majority of people, it seems -want multiple characters. And Democratics is about the freedom to do what I say.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Nikushimi

I agree that allowing second characters is of the lowest priority now.

But while we're on that subject, I should mention, that allowing them would not complicate things beyond what can be handled. Vivi makes it sound like we'd have to rewrite the system to accommodate the changes brought about by multiple characters. This is not true. We simply include a Stamina-sharing rule, if even that, and set up a list of guidelines in regards to the use of multiple characters, which really shouldn't require too much to be said.

If more than one character is too much for you, fine; don't have one. But some people- in fact, the majority of people, it seems -want multiple characters. And Democratics is about the freedom to do what I say.

I like how there's been, what three? Four? That have said they want multiple characters. I haven't seen a majority.

And it's not that it's too much for me, in fact, I would welcome the challenge of having 10 characters, if not for the fact that it's illogical. Why can't you handle one character?

Fine. I'm glad that it's the lowest priority. Hopefully it will stay that way.

[Nikushimi]

Originally Posted by Vivi

I like how there's been, what three? Four? That have said they want multiple characters. I haven't seen a majority.

In regards to this topic, there have been about five in favor and one (you) against, with about three undecided. That looks to be a majority vote so far.

Originally Posted by Vivi

And it's not that it's too much for me, in fact, I would welcome the challenge of having 10 characters, if not for the fact that it's illogical. Why can't you handle one character?

10 is just ridiculous.

I can handle one character. It's just that my character's personality doesn't allow me to interact much with other characters, and so he's kept apart as a bit of a loner. I know this is my choice to adhere to this, but it would be nice to have another character that I could use more freely. That's just my standing, though; others face different circumstances. And instead of asking "Why?", you should be asking "Why not?".

Originally Posted by Vivi

Fine. I'm glad that it's the lowest priority. Hopefully it will stay that way.

Hey, that's not nice. ;(

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Nikushimi

In regards to this topic, there have been about five in favor and one (you) against, with about three undecided. That looks to be a majority vote so far.



10 is just ridiculous.

I can handle one character. It's just that my character's personality doesn't allow me to interact much with other characters, and so he's kept apart as a bit of a loner. I know this is my choice to adhere to this, but it would be nice to have another character that I could use more freely. That's just my standing, though; others face different circumstances. And instead of asking "Why?", you should be asking "Why not?".



Hey, that's not nice. ;(

Actually, Geiger was flat-out against it. So that's two. And, also, Madness didn't want it as well. (I think) so that's three.

I could handle 10 characters, it's not that hard. Just pointless.

And, true, it's not nice. XD

[Xandor Tik'Roth]

Well, luckily, we've got a group of RPG mods that are dedicated to making this RPG the best it can be. And it is true, the RPG is unfinished, so it wouldn't make sense to add stuff until the stuff that's already there has been dealt with properly.

When this comes up again, hopefully the RPG will be fully functional. That said, I don't see a problem with having multiple characters as an option. I know that there's another character that I'd like to try out.