Pein Rikudou ~ Help.

[Lazlo]

Yeah. 1/6 of health and 1/6 of max ki.

[JAIF]

No, because it could mean that each body lost 1/6th of its health, so they all survive. Which is why Nikushimi's method is overpowered.

What I'm trying to do is figure out a functional one. I do think my method works, and since they are individual characters, and not summons, I don't see the problem with having individual stats, especially since it will make calculations so much easier.

And before you say that having more than one characters is against the rules, it's still not like having more than one characters, since they are all part of the same character. They will need to train separately in order to improve, and the stamina used to do it will be taken from Pein's stamina, essentially giving another character the chance to grow 6x stronger while I train all six bodies evenly. The advantage of each body having its individual set of custom attacks is neutralized by the amount of stamina and thus time I need to donate in order to construct all the neccessary items, and not to mention that I'll have to actually kill people (or steal their bodies) in order to use their bodies. I can add even more limitations / requirements if needed, but the basic idea seems fair.

[Lazlo]

First off, we don't like this idea. However, we're willing to let you have a go at it. Should you take the time to create all the items and learn any attacks involved, you may do so. However, to aquire a body you must defeat another player character in battle. Additionally, the body will have the level of the character you defeated, not your own. Stat distribution can be changed from there, obviously. The collective stamina effect is also to be included.

Thoughts?

[Nikushimi]

Originally Posted by Island of 1,000 Condiments

So, that would mean when Pein loses 1/6 of his health, one of his bodies dies?

It could work that way, yes.

Or rather, if 1/6 Health is lost...it's lost collectively. Remember, they don't have individual stats. They're not separate entities, they're pieces of the same puzzle, parts of the same machine. When any of them spends Ki on an attack, that Ki is gone; the collective stat is drained by that amount. If they all attack, they're all drawing Ki from the same source.

It's not like having six characters- as I keep saying, it's more like having 6 pairs of arms and legs.

[JAIF]

Well, that's pretty much what I had in mind, so yeah. Keeping the level of the character I defeated is also fine by me. Two questions though:

1) Does it have to be another member's character? What if I defeat a major NPC or something? Since, to my understanding, members can "ressurect" their characters after 7 days, it'd be kind of weird to have two characters with the same body. Even though it's technically acceptable, since in the DBZ universe you can be revived even if your body is reduced to dust, so ressurection doesn't use your original body.

2) Am I allowed to change the custom attacks the person whose body I steal had? I think Pein can define the abilities of the bodies he has, although it's not verified. Or do I have to keep the original ones and from there on learn new custom moves in the usual method?

[Lazlo]

Either you defeat another character, or you request us to make a quest for you to gain a body.

You may start with one attack for each.

[Nikushimi]

Idea: Why not purchase the original Rikudou bodies as items? D:

That's what I did for puppets when I briefly had Sasori as a character. I treated the bodies like items/weapons, "extensions of my character". I think the same could be done here.

Like I keep saying, it's just extra arms and legs.

[JAIF]

It would be Hell to balance that, Nikushimi, if it could ever be made not overpowered.

Anyway, understood. It'll take a lot of time to get to body-snatching either way.

[Nikushimi]

Originally Posted by JAIF

It would be Hell to balance that, Nikushimi, if it could ever be made not overpowered.

Anyway, understood. It'll take a lot of time to get to body-snatching either way.

It's not overpowered. D:

You still only have one set of stats; the extra bodies are mere extensions of the original. They act as a collective.

[JAIF]

Stats are not the only factor that determines balance. Imagine if every one of the six bodies could use an attack at the same time, hit an opponent from six different directions... for Pein Rikudou to be balanced, the characters I'm fighting need to be stronger than Pein, not equal to him, that's why all this is used to increase the time that needs to be wasted on making the bodies instead of training.

[Nikushimi]

Originally Posted by JAIF

Stats are not the only factor that determines balance. Imagine if every one of the six bodies could use an attack at the same time, hit an opponent from six different directions... for Pein Rikudou to be balanced, the characters I'm fighting need to be stronger than Pein, not equal to him, that's why all this is used to increase the time that needs to be wasted on making the bodies instead of training.

You know I can basically do that with Kage Bunshin, raito?

There are plenty of attacks that involve splitting off and attacking from multiple directions. Besides, discharging six attacks at a time is just an epic waste of Ki.

[JAIF]

Kage Bunshin can be dispersed with one attack... and how is using multiple attacks in conjunction to create a better effect an "epic waste of Ki"?

[Nikushimi]

Originally Posted by JAIF

Kage Bunshin can be dispersed with one attack... and how is using multiple attacks in conjunction to create a better effect an "epic waste of Ki"?

Obviously, if you're dishing out six at a time, no matter which technique it is, it's going to use up a lot of Ki. It's not like the multiple bodies will give you much of an advantage, since, as I said, the stat applies to them collectively; someone with higher Speed and Dexterity stats will probably be able to dodge all six.

Basically, your chances of hitting someone don't go up just because you have six bodies; if your Speed statistic is 300 with one body, it's 300 with six.