Masked_Felix

I have compiled videos to settle these age old arguments, with irrefutable evidence that Sandaime and Gai are three and four times stronger than Itachi and Kisame, respectively.





There can be no successful arguing, but you all may congratulate me on these finds, if you wish.

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Nikushimi

Way to fail.

If you're going to play this game, then please excuse me; I will be right back with a few dozen vids of Itachi owning the drawers off of people. D=

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Masked_Felix

That's because I'm not playing the other side.



Anyhow, this is a pretty fun game. I'm glad I got it. My only complaints are that they should have made the map a little more fluid, the voices and sound effects separate audio from the BGM, and that the RPG mode would have had a...cooler storyline, and that more characters would have had an active role, sort of like the 2nd's storyline. Lol, Ghetto mark.

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Astner

Sandaime > Shodaime + Nidaime > Shodaim > Madara [Prime] >> Madara [Tobi] > Itachi

Sandaime >> Itachi

Gai vs Gai is a battle of probability, with a 10% chance to each of winning, the remaining 80% for a draw (The one opening the death gate will most likely kill his opponent.)

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Kurushimi

Fix'd

I believe Itachi's become stronger than Madara in his prime. I also think the summoned Shodaime and Nidaime couldn't have been fighting the same way they used to be, as, somone who could take on the Kyuubi would obliterate Sandaime.

Oh, and Orochimaru stated that he could never hope to defeat Itachi. Apparently, he didn't find the same problem with Sandaime.

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Masked_Felix

Because Sandaime fights differently. Perhaps you're misjudging Sandaime, as well. In all honesty, he went through two Hokage, and then nearly through Orochimaru himself in a state of weakened old age.

Also, this was meant as a joke topic, aimed solely at the annoyance of Nikushimi, as evidenced by my commentary of the videos.

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Kurushimi

I agree that Sandaime is a formidable opponent. If he'd been a few years younger he would've straight up murdered Orochimaru. All I was saying is that the difference inbetween Orochimaru's and Itachi's power was so great that Orochimaru didn't even consider attacking him. Orochimaru on his own might not even be quite as strong as Sandaime but he still didn't fear him as much. I doubt a mere difference in fighting style would cause such a difference.

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Raven

It's Orochimaru's kinjutsu that cause a big problem. Even using Edo Tensei and Manda against Itachi would cause a problem, although I'm not sure how much of a problem but the kages from Edo Tensei have to at least equal Orochimaru in terms of power and techinique. Technically using all of those at once is like fighting three Orochimarus at the same time, three in my opinion because Manda is nearly as strong or so was stated to be (by someone or some source...). Orochimaru also used them to tire out the Hokage, if he didn't have any backup plans like that then Sandaime could have beat him. All he needed to do was seal his soul away and the main villian would have been killed right there.

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Masked_Felix

It's the Sharingan. With it enhancing Itachi's Genjutsu (to the point where Orochimaru was caught very steadfastly in a 'simple Genjutsu'), Ninjutsu(None of Orochimaru's jutsu would be useless in front of Itachi's eyes, not to mention the Mangekyou techniques), and Taijutsu (Itachi should be able to see anything coming and react to it accordingly), Orochimaru (most people, actually, barring some of the Hokage) never had a decent chance. His only hope would have been to Edo Tensei Shodai, tell him that Itachi was a murderer of the Leaf, and was bent on it's destruction, and let Shodai go bonkers. That only stands a chance if he does it before he actually goes to find Itachi, since we all know Itachi isn't going to wait politely on him.

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ultra_blade

Itachi, the genius that he is, would destroy every single enemy he faces, only because he's coolest villain in the whole of Naruto (then comes Kisame then Zabuza), and he is practically the strongest "S" rank criminal in the show.

Masked_Felix

Not really. Madara's stronger, by Itachi's spoken admittance, and by the fact that he never killed him. And Madara was beat down by Shodai. Naruto isn't exactly linear, but with Madara and Itachi bearing many of the same traits, I think it's fair to say that Shodai could handle Itachi as well.

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Masked_Felix

No, if Tobi is Madara, I don't see how that changes anything.

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Astner

Itachi and Kisame went down fair and square. Fact, deal with it.

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Nikushimi

WTF?

Why is it that when I think I thought of something, someone else thought of it too?

Wrong.

Madara [Tobi]>Itachi>Sandaime>Shodaime>Madara [Prime]>Shodai+Nidai [Edo Tensei]

Madara was weak when he was young, Orochimaru and Itachi both stated that NONE of Orochimaru's Jutsu can do shit to Itachi (which should include Edo Tensei) and that Orochimaru could never beat him no matter what (which was proven, twice, even minutes before Itachi collapsed and "died"), it was stated Itachi was the ONLY ONE capable of stopping the Uchiha Clan, therefore, Sandaime, who was stated to have surpassed Shodaime, is weaker than Itachi [13 years old].

Madara was called the strongest in the world at one point, but never "invincible" or "immortal"- and back then, "the world" was made up of disorganized clans with no social or military structure.

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