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Old 05-11-2008   #31 (permalink)
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hmmmzz, final villain, kabutomaru i'd say.....

but madara is far from failure, its just Shodai that so goddamn sexy..... powerful......

what we need an explanation of is.... why the fuck Tobi????
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Yes I would definitely agree with that. But it's all relative as well. One could argue that with more time and practice Shodai would achieve similar levels and be more in line with the current generations of ninja. So what I'm saying is that the very same argument could be made in Shodai's favor.

But yes you're right. The new generations are constantly achieving previous milestones much earlier and then surpassing them. I'm gonna laugh if Konohamaru or Udon surpasses Naruto, Kakashi or Itachi.
I don't see how the argument can be used in Shodai's favor.

Yes, Shodai was as strong as or stronger than most current shinobi- but there are now those who are as strong as or stronger than him, as opposed to back then, when he was the strongest by leaps and bounds. Sarutobi and Hanzou are perfect examples of this.

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I like how Nikushimi keeps making excuses as to why Madara lost, with little or no evidence to support his claims.
Shodai just trounced Madara AND the Kyuubi. Unless something is up, Shodai must be stronger than the Yondaime Hokage, Hanzou, and Akatsuki put together.

Forgive me if I'm a little hesitant to accept that notion as "fact". D;

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Madara couldn't be weak back then, if Tobi Madara is a shell of his former self then he must be weaker than Shodai days Madara. Yet Tobi still made a fool out of the Konoha teams.
Idealogically. He is idealogically a shell of his former self, at least in the sense Itachi was speaking, which by the way, was also his "crazy" facade.

It's been like 80 years; I doubt Madara has done anything but get stronger since then.
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You guys are all, 'lets not come to any conclusions until we know exactly what went down,' but then you go and make all these assumptions.

Fuck it. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT THE INJURIES SHODAI WAS SHOWN TO HAVE WERE THERE BEFORE THE BATTLE STARTED, AND THAT HE FOUGHT MADARA AND THE KYUUBI AND WON WHILE HE WAS WEAKENED.
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Unless he has his real body, with his "real eyes" he won't have the EMS.
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I could understand Shodai being stronger than Madara. It just doesn't make sense to me is that he defeated the Kyuubi, which was under Madara's control. I just find that idea...ridicullous.
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Especially since Sandaime defeated the first and the second with their true powers.
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I see some madarame fans here and sorry to disappoint you all but SHODAI is the GREATEST NINJA OF HIS TIME HE > MADARAME.

madarame even said so himself read 398 ffs He also states he is the only ninja he ever admired so to him shodai is the greatest ninja of all time so this questions your theories on the weak "strengths" of back then compared to the present.
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Shodai > Madara!
The Fourth Hokage > Madara!
Soon Saskue > Madara!
Maybe Pein > Madara!
Final freakin villain of the entire Naruto Franchise.....OROCHIMUTHAFREAKINMARU!!
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this is what I dont get is madara saying in the latest chapter that he isnt the bad guy?
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Good Guy bad guy, Naruto will kill Madara!
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you make it sound simple which it isnt since madara just made naruto look silly in their last encounter by just telporting.
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A fully bloodlusted unleashed Naruto?!
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A fully bloodlusted unleashed Naruto?!
this was saucegaysasuke-matters boy....
naruto was pretty pissed, having spent his life training for uchifail for 2 & half years
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What.............
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exactly my point, you have no clue
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