|Discuss| Naruto Strongest - Page 14

Tainted Saiyan · 04-20-2007

You can prety much eliminate Rope escape technique from the jutsu lists. It's obviously the weakest jutsu and every shinobi is able to use it. If it is a jutsu, I know a jutsu!

DBAF Killer · 04-21-2007

CS1.5!? Sounds weird, but I'll deal with it. Even if he didn't transform to that form, he still would bust Juugo's crazy a$$ self.

Saiyan Slayer · 04-22-2007

I was also surprise about the partial transformation. Too bad Kimimaro wasn't skill enough to do the same thing.

**JAIF** · 04-22-2007

Kimimaro couldn't win in his CS2 form, what good would a semi-CS2 form do for him?

**SS2 Vegeto** · 04-26-2007

How do any of us even know or come to the conclusion that it's a "semi-transformation"??? You don't just instantly faze from one stage to the next, it has always spread across the body.

DBAF Killer · 04-30-2007

Sasuke kinda transform into his CS1.5 form before the timeskip. See look for yourselves.

lankree · 04-30-2007

... Can someone remind me again what the point of this thread is?

**JAIF** · 04-30-2007

O_o and here I'd think it's kinda obvious... it exists to list the characters/jutsus of each chapter/arc/anything, by rank. As in, which is the strongest, the second strongest, etc etc.
Strenght relationship has been proven to not count much, since in Naruto many different factors used to come in play before the manga became retarded, and the outcome of a battle between a stronger and a weaker opponent was far from obvious... example, the Sound 4 fights. Plus, many of the lists contain errors, or are completely wrong.
And yeah, it's kinda pointless to do that, since the things listed here are ones everyone can find out for himself by just... taking a look at the manga <_<

lankree · 05-01-2007

I meant to ask was this supposed to be simply informative or for debate or something of that nature. It does seem like nothing is coming from it and I wondering if I was just missing something.
Comparing jutsu on strength doesn't really mean anything, especially if someone's techniques are defensive or subjective or have handicaps built into them. Shikamaru would be the best example of someone who's jutsu are difficult to organize by strength as he's a trapper, not offensive.

**JAIF** · 05-01-2007

[quote user="lankree"] Comparing jutsu on strength doesn't really mean anything, especially if someone's techniques are defensive or subjective or have handicaps built into them. Shikamaru would be the best example of someone who's jutsu are difficult to organize by strength as he's a trapper, not offensive.
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They are not compared by strenght, but by rank. Some jutsus are ranked by the databooks, or directly in the manga. The rest is speculation... however, as with the characters, it doesn't mean much. Kakashi said that the rank of a jutsu is related to the difficulty needed to learn it, and the amount of chakra it takes to perform it.

chimney_leaf · 05-01-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBAF Killer

Sasuke kinda transform into his CS1.5 form before the timeskip. See look for yourselves.

That's just a picture of Sasuke halfway through the transformation, it isn't a partial transformation like he did recently.

**SS2 Vegeto** · 05-01-2007

Hm. I wouldn't call it a "partial transformation", as much as just the CS power starting to slip through, or the initial fazes of CSL1, although I see how you'd come to that conclusion.

Teen Goten · 05-03-2007

Here's the strongest list for the 3rd movie. It was good by the way. Much better than the 2nd movie if you ask me.

Movie 3: The Animal Riot of Crescent Moon Island

SBM Naruto

Ishidate

Kakashi

Naruto

Lee

Kongou

Sakura

Karenbana

JammyBleached · 05-03-2007

Ishidate > Kakashi? Ishidate was hardly a Jonin level Ninja and the only reason he beat Kakashi was because he had set down a poison mist before hand and his main power coming from the gauntlet he has. Kakashi was able to make a slight contact to Ishidate with his Lightning Blade even with being partly petrified and having his senses muddled. If Kakashi's senses were fine, he would of beaten Ishidate with or without Lightning Blade. He didn't even activate his Sharingan, which would of given him the edge when fighting under abnormality.

Naruto > Lee? Has to be wrong. Kongou ripped Naruto a part whilst he was under poison, and evidently knocked him out. Then taking on Lee, he blocked a few attacks and Lee managed to barely dodge Kongou's, something Naruto couldn't even do though in the end Lee lost. Later in the film, Lee smacks Kongou around easily with his weights removed but then is beaten by Kongou who seems to go all out. Lee then gets up and beats the shit out of Kongou and kills him. If Lee had removed his weights during their first fight, chances are he would of landed a few attacks much to the same effect as Demon Chakra Naruto. Take into the account that also Kongou demonstrated some serious speed which Naruto wouldn't honestly be able to match unless in Demon Chakra mode.

So as i see it for the film:
Demon Chakra Naruto
Kakashi
Ishidate
Lee
Kongou
Naruto
Sakura
Karenbana

DBAF Killer · 05-06-2007

My mistake. I meant to say this is Sasuke's Semi-CS form before the timeskip. So yeah, he did had get control over the CS before Shippuden.

04-20-2007	#196 (permalink)
Tainted Saiyan (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113 Rep Power: 2	Re: Naruto Strongest You can prety much eliminate Rope escape technique from the jutsu lists. It's obviously the weakest jutsu and every shinobi is able to use it. If it is a jutsu, I know a jutsu! __________________

04-21-2007	#197 (permalink)
DBAF Killer (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,619 Rep Power: 6	Re: Naruto Strongest CS1.5!? Sounds weird, but I'll deal with it. Even if he didn't transform to that form, he still would bust Juugo's crazy a$$ self.

04-22-2007	#198 (permalink)
Saiyan Slayer (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 560 Rep Power: 3	Re: Naruto Strongest I was also surprise about the partial transformation. Too bad Kimimaro wasn't skill enough to do the same thing.

04-22-2007	#199 (permalink)
JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Piercing the Heavens and stuff. Posts: 5,852 Rep Power: 63	Re: Naruto Strongest Kimimaro couldn't win in his CS2 form, what good would a semi-CS2 form do for him? __________________ Empty until further notice.

04-26-2007	#200 (permalink)
SS2 Vegeto Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In God's Hands Posts: 9,396 Rep Power: 37	Re: Naruto Strongest How do any of us even know or come to the conclusion that it's a "semi-transformation"??? You don't just instantly faze from one stage to the next, it has always spread across the body. __________________

04-30-2007	#201 (permalink)
DBAF Killer (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,619 Rep Power: 6	Re: Naruto Strongest Sasuke kinda transform into his CS1.5 form before the timeskip. See look for yourselves.

04-30-2007	#202 (permalink)
lankree (11) Student of Lord Kaio Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Space where Juugo and Kimimaro reunite Posts: 200 Rep Power: 2	Re: Naruto Strongest ... Can someone remind me again what the point of this thread is? __________________

04-30-2007	#203 (permalink)
JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Piercing the Heavens and stuff. Posts: 5,852 Rep Power: 63	Re: Naruto Strongest O_o and here I'd think it's kinda obvious... it exists to list the characters/jutsus of each chapter/arc/anything, by rank. As in, which is the strongest, the second strongest, etc etc. Strenght relationship has been proven to not count much, since in Naruto many different factors used to come in play before the manga became retarded, and the outcome of a battle between a stronger and a weaker opponent was far from obvious... example, the Sound 4 fights. Plus, many of the lists contain errors, or are completely wrong. And yeah, it's kinda pointless to do that, since the things listed here are ones everyone can find out for himself by just... taking a look at the manga <_< __________________ Empty until further notice.

05-01-2007	#204 (permalink)
lankree (11) Student of Lord Kaio Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Space where Juugo and Kimimaro reunite Posts: 200 Rep Power: 2	Re: Naruto Strongest I meant to ask was this supposed to be simply informative or for debate or something of that nature. It does seem like nothing is coming from it and I wondering if I was just missing something. Comparing jutsu on strength doesn't really mean anything, especially if someone's techniques are defensive or subjective or have handicaps built into them. Shikamaru would be the best example of someone who's jutsu are difficult to organize by strength as he's a trapper, not offensive. __________________

05-01-2007	#205 (permalink)
JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Piercing the Heavens and stuff. Posts: 5,852 Rep Power: 63	Re: Naruto Strongest [quote user="lankree"] Comparing jutsu on strength doesn't really mean anything, especially if someone's techniques are defensive or subjective or have handicaps built into them. Shikamaru would be the best example of someone who's jutsu are difficult to organize by strength as he's a trapper, not offensive. [/quote] They are not compared by strenght, but by rank. Some jutsus are ranked by the databooks, or directly in the manga. The rest is speculation... however, as with the characters, it doesn't mean much. Kakashi said that the rank of a jutsu is related to the difficulty needed to learn it, and the amount of chakra it takes to perform it. __________________ Empty until further notice.

05-01-2007	#207 (permalink)
SS2 Vegeto Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In God's Hands Posts: 9,396 Rep Power: 37	Re: Naruto Strongest Hm. I wouldn't call it a "partial transformation", as much as just the CS power starting to slip through, or the initial fazes of CSL1, although I see how you'd come to that conclusion. __________________

05-03-2007	#208 (permalink)
Teen Goten (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 439 East, Mt. Paozu Posts: 606 Rep Power: 4	Re: Naruto Strongest Here's the strongest list for the 3rd movie. It was good by the way. Much better than the 2nd movie if you ask me. Movie 3: The Animal Riot of Crescent Moon Island SBM Naruto Ishidate Kakashi Naruto Lee Kongou Sakura Karenbana

05-03-2007	#209 (permalink)
JammyBleached (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England, UK Posts: 2,322 Rep Power: 9	Re: Naruto Strongest Ishidate > Kakashi? Ishidate was hardly a Jonin level Ninja and the only reason he beat Kakashi was because he had set down a poison mist before hand and his main power coming from the gauntlet he has. Kakashi was able to make a slight contact to Ishidate with his Lightning Blade even with being partly petrified and having his senses muddled. If Kakashi's senses were fine, he would of beaten Ishidate with or without Lightning Blade. He didn't even activate his Sharingan, which would of given him the edge when fighting under abnormality. Naruto > Lee? Has to be wrong. Kongou ripped Naruto a part whilst he was under poison, and evidently knocked him out. Then taking on Lee, he blocked a few attacks and Lee managed to barely dodge Kongou's, something Naruto couldn't even do though in the end Lee lost. Later in the film, Lee smacks Kongou around easily with his weights removed but then is beaten by Kongou who seems to go all out. Lee then gets up and beats the shit out of Kongou and kills him. If Lee had removed his weights during their first fight, chances are he would of landed a few attacks much to the same effect as Demon Chakra Naruto. Take into the account that also Kongou demonstrated some serious speed which Naruto wouldn't honestly be able to match unless in Demon Chakra mode. So as i see it for the film: Demon Chakra Naruto Kakashi Ishidate Lee Kongou Naruto Sakura Karenbana __________________ "Try our Brew and i bet you won't sue!"

05-06-2007	#210 (permalink)
DBAF Killer (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,619 Rep Power: 6	Re: Naruto Strongest My mistake. I meant to say this is Sasuke's Semi-CS form before the timeskip. So yeah, he did had get control over the CS before Shippuden.