Burter vs Recoome - Page 5

NzK · 10-13-2008

Speed is a dictating factor in any battle in the DB/Z universe, there's no denying that. We can deduce from what we know of the Ginyu Tokusentai that Recoome would not be able to keep up with Burter's movements. When you can't pick up someone else's movements, that generally means trouble. We see it time and time again in DB/Z.

So Recoome is at a disadvantage in that respect. But does that guarantee a certain victory for Burter? No. What set Recoome apart from Jeice, Burter, Guldo and also (I believe) Ginyu was not his size or muscle mass - it was his ability to unleash several devastating and explosive chi attacks. We never saw the "Fighting Bomber", but Recoome stated that it would destroy everything in a rather large radius. I can't remember what distance he says exactly, but I assume that it would be on par or perhaps greater than the attack Furiza uses immediately after reaching his second form.

We never see that kind of explosive chi capability from Jeice or Burter, or Ginyu for that matter, and personally I don't think they could match him in that area. I believe that's what made him unique in the Ginyu Tokusentai. Even the "Eraser Gun", fired from his mouth caused a humongous explosion which probably rivaled the impact of Furiza's death beams fired at Gohan.

So yeah, just my thoughts on this. Recoome could possibly annihilate Burter by performing something like the "Fighting Bomber", but I'm not sure on the radius of that blast, so Burter may be able to evade it but...I'm not certain. But in this instance, superior speed does not mean a dead certain victory for Burter.

Dupe of USSJed · 10-13-2008

Burter is much faster and arguably smarter(they are both dumb as rocks)

Recoombe is stronger, much tougher, and has much better ki attacks.

Burter has one large advantage and one small, Recoombe has one small and two large. I give this to Recoombe based on that.

NzK · 10-13-2008

I'd put them at equal or near-equal intelligence. Wasn't Jeice represented as the "tactician" of the Tokusentai? That's the impression I got, especially during the fight with Goku.

Dupe of USSJed · 10-13-2008

Its just, whilst Burter appeared to be pretty dumb, Recoombe was nearly outright retarded IIRC

Hero · 10-13-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

Burter is much faster and arguably smarter(they are both dumb as rocks)

Recoombe is stronger, much tougher, and has much better ki attacks.

Burter has one large advantage and one small, Recoombe has one small and two large. I give this to Recoombe based on that.

This is all based on assumptions though.

From what we've seen there's no reason to believe that Recoome is many times stronger/resilient/has better ki attacks.

NzK · 10-13-2008

Yeah, thinking back to his fight with Vegeta...he definitely wasn't the smartest fighter in DB/Z. Burter was probably smarter, but not by a whole lot. All of them were pretty thick TBH, except for Jeice and Ginyu.

Hero: We never see anything special from Burter in terms of chi techniques though, whereas Recoome seems to have a natural talent for chi techniques that cause immense destruction.

Dupe of USSJed · 10-13-2008

And to add to that, he's shown to be tough as nails, whilst Burter crumpled with ease. Strength wise if you go by size, then recoombe definitely has the advantage. But where did you get 'many times' from?

Hero · 10-13-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

And to add to that, he's shown to be tough as nails, whilst Burter crumpled with ease. Strength wise if you go by size, then recoombe definitely has the advantage. But where did you get 'many times' from?

Shown to be tough as nails when he fount Vegeta, but what about when he fought Goku? He looked just as weak as Burter.

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But where did you get 'many times' from?

Because you were suggesting that since Burter couldn't beat Ginyu, he couldn't beat Recoome, obviously indicating how much stronger you think Recoome is.

Dupe of USSJed · 10-13-2008

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Shown to be tough as nails when he fount Vegeta, but what about when he fought Goku? He looked just as weak as Burter.

He left an opening. If I punched you in that same position you'd collapse too. Burter on the other hand sucked ass and got beat down the old fashioned way.

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Because you were suggesting that since Burter couldn't beat Ginyu, he couldn't beat Recoome, obviously indicating how much stronger you think Recoome is.

I was not suggesting that. Just that if Speed>>>Power as you seem to think, then Ginyu would beg for mercy from 'The fastest in the universe'

Hell, USSJ Trunks would probably beg also.

Hero · 10-13-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

He left an opening. If I punched you in that same position you'd collapse too. Burter on the other hand sucked ass and got beat down the old fashioned way.

You've gotta be shitting me.

Are you really suggesting that Recoome faired better against Goku than Burter?

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I was not suggesting that. Just that if Speed>>>Power as you seem to think, then Ginyu would beg for mercy from 'The fastest in the universe'

Way to take it out of context. I said it was the most important stat, not the only stat that mattered.

Dupe of USSJed · 10-13-2008

What we saw, was Recoombe do a stupid pose then get floored. Burter double teamed with Jeice. Losing because of a dumb pose>losing in 2on1.

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Way to take it out of context. I said it was the most important stat, not the only stat that mattered.

Why is it more important than strength, or skill, or ki attacks, or intelligence, or toughness?

Glue · 10-14-2008

I think Reacoom would win. Burter and Jeice are a lot dumber then him from what is seen. Sure Burter has speed but I think Reacoom is a better fighter.

Hero · 10-15-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

What we saw, was Recoombe do a stupid pose then get floored. Burter double teamed with Jeice. Losing because of a dumb pose>losing in 2on1.

Recoome would've lost in a double team as well.

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Why is it more important than strength, or skill, or ki attacks, or intelligence, or toughness?

Because the whole point of a fight is to be able to hit someone. If you're too slow to do that, then you can't incorporate all the other stats into how you'll attack and such.

Super Cool · 10-15-2008

Burtur. I mean Cell at a lower PL had superior speed over Trunks and dominated him so at equal power levels speed would play a huge role.

10-13-2008	#61 (permalink)
NzK (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 575 Rep Power: 75	Re: Burter vs Recoome Speed is a dictating factor in any battle in the DB/Z universe, there's no denying that. We can deduce from what we know of the Ginyu Tokusentai that Recoome would not be able to keep up with Burter's movements. When you can't pick up someone else's movements, that generally means trouble. We see it time and time again in DB/Z. So Recoome is at a disadvantage in that respect. But does that guarantee a certain victory for Burter? No. What set Recoome apart from Jeice, Burter, Guldo and also (I believe) Ginyu was not his size or muscle mass - it was his ability to unleash several devastating and explosive chi attacks. We never saw the "Fighting Bomber", but Recoome stated that it would destroy everything in a rather large radius. I can't remember what distance he says exactly, but I assume that it would be on par or perhaps greater than the attack Furiza uses immediately after reaching his second form. We never see that kind of explosive chi capability from Jeice or Burter, or Ginyu for that matter, and personally I don't think they could match him in that area. I believe that's what made him unique in the Ginyu Tokusentai. Even the "Eraser Gun", fired from his mouth caused a humongous explosion which probably rivaled the impact of Furiza's death beams fired at Gohan. So yeah, just my thoughts on this. Recoome could possibly annihilate Burter by performing something like the "Fighting Bomber", but I'm not sure on the radius of that blast, so Burter may be able to evade it but...I'm not certain. But in this instance, superior speed does not mean a dead certain victory for Burter. __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting New Entrants!

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,705 Rep Power: 202	Re: Burter vs Recoome Burter is much faster and arguably smarter(they are both dumb as rocks) Recoombe is stronger, much tougher, and has much better ki attacks. Burter has one large advantage and one small, Recoombe has one small and two large. I give this to Recoombe based on that. __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.

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NzK (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 575 Rep Power: 75	Re: Burter vs Recoome I'd put them at equal or near-equal intelligence. Wasn't Jeice represented as the "tactician" of the Tokusentai? That's the impression I got, especially during the fight with Goku. __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting New Entrants!

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,705 Rep Power: 202	Re: Burter vs Recoome Its just, whilst Burter appeared to be pretty dumb, Recoombe was nearly outright retarded IIRC __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.

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NzK (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 575 Rep Power: 75	Re: Burter vs Recoome Yeah, thinking back to his fight with Vegeta...he definitely wasn't the smartest fighter in DB/Z. Burter was probably smarter, but not by a whole lot. All of them were pretty thick TBH, except for Jeice and Ginyu. Hero: We never see anything special from Burter in terms of chi techniques though, whereas Recoome seems to have a natural talent for chi techniques that cause immense destruction. __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting New Entrants!

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,705 Rep Power: 202	Re: Burter vs Recoome And to add to that, he's shown to be tough as nails, whilst Burter crumpled with ease. Strength wise if you go by size, then recoombe definitely has the advantage. But where did you get 'many times' from? __________________ DBZ RPG Accepting new entrants! Must be active every day, at some point between 10am and 6pm New Zealand Time(+13), and willing to take the RPG seriously. 9 out of 10 MFGers thing that Orancello is SSJJason. If you are one of the 1 in 10 that don't, copy this and put it in your sig. Accepted Character Races. Android(#8, can upgrade later), Alien(Custom), Bio Android(Cell type), Changeling(Frieza), Demon, Human, Kaioshin, Namekian. Others conditionally. No Saiyans and Hybrids, sorry.

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Glue (13) Great Ape Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 302 Rep Power: 15	Re: Burter vs Recoome I think Reacoom would win. Burter and Jeice are a lot dumber then him from what is seen. Sure Burter has speed but I think Reacoom is a better fighter. __________________ DBZ Power Level List: http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/ani...er-levels.html DBZ Power Level Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/1337Glue

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Super Cool Naruto Ranked (26) Shichibi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SuperCoolsville Posts: 5,054 Rep Power: 31	Re: Burter vs Recoome Burtur. I mean Cell at a lower PL had superior speed over Trunks and dominated him so at equal power levels speed would play a huge role. __________________