Kibito vs Freeza 50% - Page 3

Evil Vegeta · 08-30-2008

So we definitely know you must have a good understanding of the sword at least, and that you can't just lift it and have no trouble with it.

I really don't think any form of Freeza could lift the Z-sword.

Senzu_Bean · 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Imkakashi007

Freeza is more likely in taking a SS than then Kibito which means freeza would be able take the Z sword out, cause it took Gohan SS to take it out.

East Kaioshin stated Freeza was "garbage" for Kaioshins. So why do you think Freeza could take the Z-Sword if East Kaioshin couldn't?

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Originally Posted by remixremix

Thats what you believ but i dont since that wasnt stated....for all we know the base saiyans could be as strong as SSJ Goku on namek or weaker

Dabura went straight to kill at Krillin, Piccolo and Kibito. He couldn't possibly know the Saiyans have "hidden" power in them (SSj forms). That means all three, Son Goku, Vegeta and Son Gohan are stronger than Piccolo in their bases.

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Originally Posted by Imkakashi007

If Kibito thought he was able to take Super buu Gotenks, then what makes you think he can take freeza 100%
when Elder kai, said he would just be in the way.

It was stated and never contradicted.

Remixxx · 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

So we definitely know you must have a good understanding of the sword at least, and that you can't just lift it and have no trouble with it.

I really don't think any form of Freeza could lift the Z-sword.

The sword is god damn heavy

...but the problem is that Kibito couldnt even hold it for a sec it droped immidiatlly..so he is immediatly leaugse below Gohan

Im keeping him below Freeza 50% he doesnt disaply anything or SOMETHING CLOSE TO HAVING A HUGE BATTEL POWER...

Senzu Bean:Thats Dabura quote was contradictedzer later on with so many exampels where it shows that he cant feel enrgy so you decide what you want to choose

SSJ4 Vegito · 08-30-2008

Exactly and Freeza couldn't lift it either. Besides he could just be half or even 3 quarters of Gohan's Base power.

Remixxx · 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by SSJ4 Vegito

Exactly and Freeza couldn't lift it either. Besides he could just be half or even 3 quarters of Gohan's Base power.

Maybe he could

...but you have to admitt to put him on a higher level he has to do somethin to be considered that strong.

Evil Vegeta · 08-30-2008

By the way Kaioshin was so excited by SSJ Gohan lifting the sword, I'm sure he couldn't lift it either. We know all of the Kaioshins are above Freeza, so he likely can't lift it.

Remixxx · 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

By the way Kaioshin was so excited by SSJ Gohan lifting the sword, I'm sure he couldn't lift it either. We know all of the Kaioshins are above Freeza, so he likely can't lift it.

We only know that he cant pull it out of the rockbut can he lift it or not cant be proven...

All i wanted to say is for us to assume that he could have a high battel power he needs to do somethin but since he didnt i just cant see him anymore above this...Toryama probbaly wanted to say by not giving him anything that he is just plain weak hehehe

Evil Vegeta · 08-30-2008

Kaioshin has shown no physical power at all, and only magical ability. I don't think it's that much of an assumption to say he couldn't lift the sword. I also don't see much of a difference between unleashing the sword and lifting it? If you can't unleash it, you likely can't lift it.

Senzu_Bean · 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by remixremix

Maybe he could

...but you have to admitt to put him on a higher level he has to do somethin to be considered that strong.

He can't! East Kaioshin is x times much, much stronger than Freeza and the former couldn't even pull out or lift the Z-Sword.

So since Kibito didn't do nothing you place him below 50% of Freeza's power? I miss the times when Freeza first form was feared by all and his power could be considered powerful.

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Originally Posted by remixremix

Senzu Bean:Thats Dabura quote was contradictedzer later on with so many exampels where it shows that he cant feel enrgy so you decide what you want to choose

As?!

Remixxx · 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Kaioshin has shown no physical power at all, and only magical ability. I don't think it's that much of an assumption to say he couldn't lift the sword. I also don't see much of a difference between unleashing the sword and lifting it? If you can't unleash it, you likely can't lift it.

Well if Gohan needs SSJ to lift the Sword and can swing with it in his base then it means it is easier

Senzu im to tired to write it know sorryy

Evil Vegeta · 08-30-2008

Did you forget Gohan was shown training with the sword in SSJ form for a couple chapters before he was in base? He had to get used to it.

Remixxx · 08-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Did you forget Gohan was shown training with the sword in SSJ form for a couple chapters before he was in base? He had to get used to it.

That did not happend after he pulled the sword he was immeditally in base

SSJ4 Vegito · 08-30-2008

Actually in Volume #24 when Goku goes SSJ3, Gohan, Kabito and Kaioshin all sense his power and Gohan is training in his Super Saiyan form.

Remixxx · 08-30-2008

Thats happend later on......After he pulls the sword out he is showed only in base form and he is abel to lift the z sword

Evil Vegeta · 08-30-2008

If you look at Gohan, he's actually havin trouble with the sword. He even said the sword was real heavy, and Kibito told him he had to train with the sword so it wouldn't be too difficult for him to lift.

Anyways, what's the point here? Kibito couldn't lift the sword, Kaioshin doesn't try to lift it, so he can't lift it. He also has shown no physical power at all.

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: Kibito vs Freeza 50% Exactly and Freeza couldn't lift it either. Besides he could just be half or even 3 quarters of Gohan's Base power. __________________ 90% of DragonBall fans detest DragonBall GT If you're one of the 10% of fans who actually like GT, post this in your signature. "If everything God did made sense he wouldn't be 'God" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4afhQK_sXgQ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAi7ZDY2q4s- Dead sea scrolls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU_rTX23V7Q for fellow Christians

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,482 Rep Power: 138	Re: Kibito vs Freeza 50% Actually in Volume #24 when Goku goes SSJ3, Gohan, Kabito and Kaioshin all sense his power and Gohan is training in his Super Saiyan form. __________________ 90% of DragonBall fans detest DragonBall GT If you're one of the 10% of fans who actually like GT, post this in your signature. "If everything God did made sense he wouldn't be 'God" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4afhQK_sXgQ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAi7ZDY2q4s- Dead sea scrolls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU_rTX23V7Q for fellow Christians

08-30-2008	#44 (permalink)
Remixxx (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Neptune Posts: 3,458 Rep Power: 70	Re: Kibito vs Freeza 50% Thats happend later on......After he pulls the sword out he is showed only in base form and he is abel to lift the z sword __________________