Ames

I'm curious to what your opinions are of this bout.

SSJ Gohan held his own against the two future androids, before falling. However, a one on one battle may have been a different story.

SSJ Vegeta held his own against present #18, before falling.

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Canon Vegeta easillly

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Ames

Ehh, my mistake.

Do state your opinion as if it was placed in the other section.

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gokusucks

Future Gohan was beaten by a 17 who used half of his power. Yeah, I give this one to Vegeta.

EDIT: Oh. If that's the case, I would say Gohan, but only barely. When fighting the androids one on one, he seemed to be almost winning, and, because I believe that the future androids were no weaker than the present ones, I think he would outdo Vegeta.

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Non canon:Future 17 and 18>>SSJ Future Gohan
Present 18>>>>SSJ Vegeta

Present A>>>Future A

Future Gohan=Future Trunks first time on earth

Vegeta again wins easilly

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Darkprince410

Canon-wise it'd be Ssj Bejiita without a doubt.

Non-canon wise I'd still give it to Ssj Bejiita, as he was able to fight well enough against the present Juuhachigou at first that Torunkusu was visibly surprised, and Gohan was only able to hold his own for awhile against weaker versions of Juuhachigou and Juunanagou (Torunkusu clearly states that the strength of the present timeline jinzou-ningen was noticeably higher than those of the ones he fought in his timeline).

Juuhachigou (present) >= Ssj Bejiita
Juunanagou / Juuhachigou >= Ssj Gohan (future)
Juuhachigou (present) >>> Juuhachigou (future)
Ssj Bejiita > Ssj Gohan (future)

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gokusucks

Trunks may have been surprised about how well Vegeta was doing against the Androids, but he never saw the fight between Gohan and the Androids, so that doesn't seem like a fair comparison.

Also, as I said in the other thread, I know that Trunks said that the Androids in the present timeline were stronger than the ones he fought, but, given the Future Androids's inclination to hold back while fighting against Gohan, isn't it possible that they did the same to Trunks?

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Evil Vegeta

To follow up, Android #17 even tell's #18 that she'll get rid of their "toy" too quickly, which makes it very likely that they used minimum power against SSJ Trunks.

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So what now Future=Present im confuse

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Evil Vegeta

I don't think they're exactly equal, but I don't think they're like 8x more powerful then the future ones, either. If anything, they can be equal.

I basically believe that Trunks never experienced the Androids real power, or even close to that, because they think he's just a toy they could kick around anytime they want. Trunks stated he could hold his own against them, yet Android #17 believes Android #18 could take him alone.

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EDIT: Never mind, Evil Vegeta phrased it far more eloquently than I did.

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So lets say that the future Androids are still stronger then SSJ vegeta Android saga but weaker then the Present ones

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Evil Vegeta

That's possible, too. I think they could be stronger, just not 8x like I've seen some believe.

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Remixxx

Okey then .....so Vegeta still wins....

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