At equal Power levels: SSJ2 Goku vs. Super Buu

SSJ4 Vegito · 07-20-2008

Who wins? Goku probably has minimal strain with his SSJ2 form, however I believe he is the better fighter here and he might have the stamina to obliterate Super Buu. However Super Buu's Regeneration might tire Goku out I think it's a good match what about you guys.

Evil Vegeta · 07-20-2008

I think Goku's energy would be depleted before he could end the battle. Gotenks, who I think is equal with Super Buu, got the upperhand with his physical attacks towards the end, so maybe Goku could do that if Super Buu let's his guard down. I would still go with Super Buu.

SRP76 · 07-20-2008

Super Buu. He doesn't wear out. Goku does.

And Buu also learns every attack he sees. Before long, Buu will be using all Goku's techniques against him.

**Majuub** · 07-20-2008

SSJ2 Goku for the win. The strain of the SSJ2 is not comparable to the strain of the SSJ3, and even with the massive Ki drain Goku could have won the fight against Chibi Buu who is a better fighter than Shin Buu.

Shin Buu was an idiot who was getting beaten up by Gotenks who isn't remotely close to Goku in terms of skills. Chibi Buu on the other hand showed impressive capabilites along with amazing fighting skills.

Goku could easily find a way to obliterate Shin Buu, he could just teleport behind him and blast him off.

Evil Vegeta · 07-20-2008

You think at equal power levels Goku would be able to erase him completely? He was going to go well beyond his ordinary SSJ3 power to wipe Kid Buu out. At his current power equal with Kid Buu, he could not blast him into oblivion, he just couldn't.

**Majuub** · 07-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

You think at equal power levels Goku would be able to erase him completely? He was going to go well beyond his ordinary SSJ3 power to wipe Kid Buu out. At his current power equal with Kid Buu, he could not blast him into oblivion, he just couldn't.

At full power SSJ3 Goku can wipe out Chibi Buu, so at full power SSJ2 Goku in this case could wipe out Shin Buu =/

Chibi Buu and Goku were even and still Goku had enough power to send him to the other wordl. The same would apply for Shin Buu. Y/N??

Frieza the Tyrant · 07-20-2008

SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu Goku wins
SSJ2 Goku = Super Buu Super Buu wins, regeneration.

Evil Vegeta · 07-20-2008

You mean to Slimeville, right?

I think the battle has no "Full-Power", and just equal powers only. If Goku could use his maximum power, I think he might wipe him out, but if he can only stay equal with Super Buu, he'll continue to regenerate. Super Buu also is no slouch when you think about it.

**Majuub** · 07-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Frieza the Tyrant

SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu Goku wins
SSJ2 Goku = Super Buu Super Buu wins, regeneration.

Somewhat innacurate.

SSJ3 Goku with MAJOR UNKNOWN strain>/=Chibi Buu with regeneration

In terms of fighting skills

SSJ3 Goku>/=Chibi Buu>Shin Buu

SSJ2 Goku with MINIMAL KNOWN strain>Shin Buu with regeneration

Edit: @ Evil Vegeta, when two characters are equal, their full power is more than enough to anihilate the other. In fact, even a slightly weaker character can kill a stronger character.

Frieza the Tyrant · 07-20-2008

I don't think the strain from the SSJ3 would be enough to make Goku that much weaker. The only time something unrelated to battle had an affect on power levels was when the heart virus attacked Goku. You could noticably see that he is tired and in pain. Goku wasn't shown to be losing any power when he was in SSJ3. People constantly say SSJ3 causes massive amounts of strain etc. I want to know where this comes from. The only type of problem that it created was that it shortened Goku's time on Earth. It was never said to make him weaker.

Evil Vegeta · 07-20-2008

Majuub, I have a question: What was Vegeta's exact quote about SSJ3 Goku & his ability to wipe out Kid Buu? I'm always interested to see what's in other versions of the manga.

In mines, he just says: "Build up your chi with SSJ3, and you should be able to obliterate him!" I'm tryin to get an understanding of whether this was a direct reference to some sort of chi-blast, or Goku's maximum power in SSJ3.

**Majuub** · 07-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Frieza the Tyrant

I don't think the strain from the SSJ3 would be enough to make Goku that much weaker. The only time something unrelated to battle had an affect on power levels was when the heart virus attacked Goku. You could noticably see that he is tired and in pain. Goku wasn't shown to be losing any power when he was in SSJ3. People constantly say SSJ3 causes massive amounts of strain etc. I want to know where this comes from. The only type of problem that it created was that it shortened Goku's time on Earth. It was never said to make him weaker.

Goku when he was fighting Chibi Buu: Damn, we have the same technic but his power doesn't decrease

That means Goku's power was decreasing.

Edit: @Evil Vegeta.

Avec la puissance de ton Super Saiyan 3 tu devrais être en mesure de complètement le desintégrer.

Translated: With the power of your SSJ3 you should be able to completely obliterate him.

Evil Vegeta · 07-20-2008

Okay, so we have the same understanding then. I think Vegeta or Goku were referring to some kind of chi-blast to wipe him out, but at first, I always thought his full-power in SSJ3 was what they were referring to. Goku even mentions he got close to full-power, but then it stopped.

**Majuub** · 07-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Okay, so we have the same understanding then. I think Vegeta or Goku were referring to some kind of chi-blast to wipe him out, but at first, I always thought his full-power in SSJ3 was what they were referring to. Goku even mentions he got close to full-power, but then it stopped.

Well obviously they were refering to a full power Kamehameha or some kind of other energy attack. Goku surely couldn't punch him to death. That's why Goku said he's been trying but he never had the occasion.

Frieza the Tyrant · 07-20-2008

Ok so Goku's power is decreasing but it's still higher than Kid Buu's. I don't see your point. Goku SSJ2 versus Super Buu is at equal power levels so Super Buu wins. And if you want to discuss decreasing power levels than SSJ2 decreases too as shown in the fight between 18 and Vegeta. Super Buu is superior to Goku in skills. Transportation is not a very storng argument because Goku only used that technique once.

07-20-2008	#1 (permalink)
SSJ4 Vegito (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,947 Rep Power: 14	At equal Power levels: SSJ2 Goku vs. Super Buu Who wins? Goku probably has minimal strain with his SSJ2 form, however I believe he is the better fighter here and he might have the stamina to obliterate Super Buu. However Super Buu's Regeneration might tire Goku out I think it's a good match what about you guys.

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SRP76 (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,197 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 17	Re: At equal Power levels: SSJ2 Goku vs. Super Buu Super Buu. He doesn't wear out. Goku does. And Buu also learns every attack he sees. Before long, Buu will be using all Goku's techniques against him.

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Majuub Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,130 Rep Power: 70	Re: At equal Power levels: SSJ2 Goku vs. Super Buu SSJ2 Goku for the win. The strain of the SSJ2 is not comparable to the strain of the SSJ3, and even with the massive Ki drain Goku could have won the fight against Chibi Buu who is a better fighter than Shin Buu. Shin Buu was an idiot who was getting beaten up by Gotenks who isn't remotely close to Goku in terms of skills. Chibi Buu on the other hand showed impressive capabilites along with amazing fighting skills. Goku could easily find a way to obliterate Shin Buu, he could just teleport behind him and blast him off. __________________

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Frieza the Tyrant (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,384 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 94	Re: At equal Power levels: SSJ2 Goku vs. Super Buu SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu Goku wins SSJ2 Goku = Super Buu Super Buu wins, regeneration.

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Frieza the Tyrant (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,384 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 94	Re: At equal Power levels: SSJ2 Goku vs. Super Buu I don't think the strain from the SSJ3 would be enough to make Goku that much weaker. The only time something unrelated to battle had an affect on power levels was when the heart virus attacked Goku. You could noticably see that he is tired and in pain. Goku wasn't shown to be losing any power when he was in SSJ3. People constantly say SSJ3 causes massive amounts of strain etc. I want to know where this comes from. The only type of problem that it created was that it shortened Goku's time on Earth. It was never said to make him weaker.

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Frieza the Tyrant (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,384 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 94	Re: At equal Power levels: SSJ2 Goku vs. Super Buu Ok so Goku's power is decreasing but it's still higher than Kid Buu's. I don't see your point. Goku SSJ2 versus Super Buu is at equal power levels so Super Buu wins. And if you want to discuss decreasing power levels than SSJ2 decreases too as shown in the fight between 18 and Vegeta. Super Buu is superior to Goku in skills. Transportation is not a very storng argument because Goku only used that technique once.