Chaioutzu (Beginning of DBZ) vs. Cyborg Tao

SSJ4 Vegito · 07-12-2008

Who would win? I feel Chaioutzu would be able to paralyze Cyborg Tao win but not without his telekinesis.

Dupe of USSJed · 07-12-2008

Tao wins. His Cyborg parts wouldn't be paralysed(I think), and anyway he is much stronger IMO.
(Also I am assuming you mean Raditz Saga Chaotzu not the very beginning)

SSJ4 Vegito · 07-13-2008

You are correct, about it being Raditz Saga Chaioutzu, which is the beginning of DBZ.

Dupe of USSJed · 07-13-2008

Tao could ask Chaotzu how to count...

SSJ4 Vegito · 07-13-2008

Maybe but I don't think Chaioutzu would fall for it again. Plus Master Shen was suprised Chaioutzu fell for that trick, so I guess it never occured to him or Tao, but hey if he could do that Chaioutzu would probably not be able to best him in an actual fist-fight.

Dupe of USSJed · 07-13-2008

Theres no way Chaotzu could beat Cyborg Tao in hand to hand fighting, so if his paralysis fails Chaotzu is screwed.

Sephiroth · 07-13-2008

Chaozu loses. No question.

I think that we can all agree that at the beginning of Dragonball Z Yamusha was a good deal stronger than Chaozu. How much so could be up for debate. I personally can't see Chaozu being too much (if at all) stronger than Muten Roshi at this time. In the time between the 22nd Tenka'ichi Budokai and the 23rd Tenka'ichi Budokai I doubt that Roshi would have done any serious training. Seeing as how he accepted that he could not beat warriors of Tenshinhan's and Goku's caliber and that there was no worry of them becoming overconfident in there own abilities, should they win. Then during the time between the 23rd Budokai and the start of Dragonball Z Roshi once again would have done little training to improve his power, since he would have little reason to. As such Muten Roshi' power wouldn't have been too much lower during the 22nd Budokai than it was at the start of Dragonball Z. I'd place him anyplace in the 130's range personally.

During the 22nd Tenka'ichi Budokai Muten Roshi was able to put up a good fight with Tenshinhan (though neither got completely serious). It is later stated by Roshi that he wouldn't have been able to beat Tenshinhan in an all out fight. This would place Tenshinhan at around the 140 range.

When Taopaipai returns as a cyborg in the 23rd Tenka'ichi Budokai Tsuru-sen'nin is confident that Taopaipai will have no problem beating Tenshinhan and Goku in the tournament. Tsuru-Sen'nin would know exactly how strong Tenshinhan was during the last Budokai, since he was still his student. This means that Cyborg Taopaipai would have to be noticeably stronger than Tenshinhan was during the last Tournament. With this in mind we can infer that Taopaipai would also be a good deal stronger than Muten Roshi is at the beginning of Dragonball Z.

Putting this together we can see that Chaozu (who should be around Muten Roshi's power) wouldn't stand a chance against Cyborg Taopaipai. He'd do better than he did in the 23rd Tenka'ichi Budokai, but not enough to last any substantial amount of time.

A better mach up would be Yamusha (start of Dragonball Z) Vs. Cyborg Taopaipai.

Evil Vegeta · 07-13-2008

I agree with Sephiroth. At the most, Chaitzu would be around 150 in my opinion, which is weaker then Yamcha's 177 power level. I could see Cyborg Tao around 160, since he stated his new cybernetics increased his power several times then they were before.

If Chaitzu could barely handle Tao's beam attack, which had no effort in it, then he wouldn't be able to take place in a battle with him. If Tao uses the Super Dodonpa, Chaitzu is finished, or a basic one for that matter. If he uses his explosion attack, he might win, but that's not really a victory.

Devilz · 07-13-2008

Chiaotzu got completely raped trying to fight Tao in the 23rd tournament, and he would have hardly got stronger after 5 years to make any sort of difference.

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,323 Rep Power: 202	Chaioutzu (Beginning of DBZ) vs. Cyborg Tao Who would win? I feel Chaioutzu would be able to paralyze Cyborg Tao win but not without his telekinesis.

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Dupe of USSJed (29) Great Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 8,746 Rep Power: 289	Re: Chaioutzu (Beginning of DBZ) vs. Cyborg Tao Tao wins. His Cyborg parts wouldn't be paralysed(I think), and anyway he is much stronger IMO. (Also I am assuming you mean Raditz Saga Chaotzu not the very beginning) __________________ USSJed's Mathematical Powerlevels http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/ani...-ssj-goku.html Would anyone be interested in a Duke Nukem RPG?

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,323 Rep Power: 202	Re: Chaioutzu (Beginning of DBZ) vs. Cyborg Tao Maybe but I don't think Chaioutzu would fall for it again. Plus Master Shen was suprised Chaioutzu fell for that trick, so I guess it never occured to him or Tao, but hey if he could do that Chaioutzu would probably not be able to best him in an actual fist-fight.

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Dupe of USSJed (29) Great Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 8,746 Rep Power: 289	Re: Chaioutzu (Beginning of DBZ) vs. Cyborg Tao Theres no way Chaotzu could beat Cyborg Tao in hand to hand fighting, so if his paralysis fails Chaotzu is screwed. __________________ USSJed's Mathematical Powerlevels http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/ani...-ssj-goku.html Would anyone be interested in a Duke Nukem RPG?

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SSJ4 Vegito (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,323 Rep Power: 202	You are correct, about it being Raditz Saga Chaioutzu, which is the beginning of DBZ.

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Sephiroth MFG's One Winged Angel (11) Hunter Nin Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Inside the Tsukuyomi Posts: 185 Rep Power: 4	Re: Chaioutzu (Beginning of DBZ) vs. Cyborg Tao Chaozu loses. No question. I think that we can all agree that at the beginning of Dragonball Z Yamusha was a good deal stronger than Chaozu. How much so could be up for debate. I personally can't see Chaozu being too much (if at all) stronger than Muten Roshi at this time. In the time between the 22nd Tenka'ichi Budokai and the 23rd Tenka'ichi Budokai I doubt that Roshi would have done any serious training. Seeing as how he accepted that he could not beat warriors of Tenshinhan's and Goku's caliber and that there was no worry of them becoming overconfident in there own abilities, should they win. Then during the time between the 23rd Budokai and the start of Dragonball Z Roshi once again would have done little training to improve his power, since he would have little reason to. As such Muten Roshi' power wouldn't have been too much lower during the 22nd Budokai than it was at the start of Dragonball Z. I'd place him anyplace in the 130's range personally. During the 22nd Tenka'ichi Budokai Muten Roshi was able to put up a good fight with Tenshinhan (though neither got completely serious). It is later stated by Roshi that he wouldn't have been able to beat Tenshinhan in an all out fight. This would place Tenshinhan at around the 140 range. When Taopaipai returns as a cyborg in the 23rd Tenka'ichi Budokai Tsuru-sen'nin is confident that Taopaipai will have no problem beating Tenshinhan and Goku in the tournament. Tsuru-Sen'nin would know exactly how strong Tenshinhan was during the last Budokai, since he was still his student. This means that Cyborg Taopaipai would have to be noticeably stronger than Tenshinhan was during the last Tournament. With this in mind we can infer that Taopaipai would also be a good deal stronger than Muten Roshi is at the beginning of Dragonball Z. Putting this together we can see that Chaozu (who should be around Muten Roshi's power) wouldn't stand a chance against Cyborg Taopaipai. He'd do better than he did in the 23rd Tenka'ichi Budokai, but not enough to last any substantial amount of time. A better mach up would be Yamusha (start of Dragonball Z) Vs. Cyborg Taopaipai. __________________ The eyes of a madman glow with pure hatred as he looks towards his goal: Of becoming a God.