Super Saiyan Bardock vs First Form Frieza

Zarbon507 · 07-09-2008

This question has always been on my mind, the saiyans never really knew about turning super saiyan out of great emotion like how Goku did when he was angry and powered up.

So at the ending of bardock the father of goku, before he flies up to Frieza's spaceship, if he were to start powering up with all his anger and become super saiyan, then fly up to frieza, who do you think would have won?

SSJ4 Vegito · 07-09-2008

Well at the time he was there he was already injured so going SSJ might regenerate some of his power but I don't think he'd get up to 9,000 (Since is original level is 10,000) 9,000 times 50 would be 450,000. However Freeza didn't have his scouter and would let his guard down (And since he most likely isn't powered up to his Maximum) so that would allow Bardock to attack him like a mad man and if he finishes the fight quickly he would probably win, however his body might not be able to take the stress of the SSJ form for long. So I'd say Bardock has a chance considering how arrogant Freeza is so I'd go with Bardock.

Evil Vegeta · 07-09-2008

I think if there was an actual battle, Bardock would win. If this takes place when they're facing each other down, I believe Freeza's attack would still have the upperhand.

Usually, I think the power level rises when a huge energy attack is created; that would naturally put Bardock's attack at a lower power, since Freeza's maximum power level would still be greater then Bardock's theoretical SSJ power.

Devilz · 07-09-2008

Since Frieza wasn't at full power when we first see him on Namek, he's probably not at full power here (who could make him power up?) so Bardock would win for sure.

Kaio · 07-09-2008

Frieza would win. It's not like it would take a long time for Frieza to power up to the maximum of his first form, as seen on Namek. Frieza has much more devasting techniques than Bardock, including creating giant energy balls in seconds and controllable energy disks; oh, and he has a 1.06 advantage in power too.

Devilz · 07-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Kaio

It's not like it would take a long time for Frieza to power up to the maximum of his first form, as seen on Namek.

It's not easy to tell time in the manga. He took two panels to power up but in between was the Piccolo-Nail sequence so if that took place in between then Frieza did take a long time to power up.

Evil Vegeta · 07-09-2008

That dialogue with Piccolo & Nail was sorta long, so Freeza did take a good bit to reach full-power. But I think his power would rise with his energy ball anyway.

louis6578 · 07-09-2008

Seeing how this isn't in the movie/gt section bardock can't be too much over 1000. he can't beat zarbon as an ssj.

Devilz · 07-09-2008

Seeing how this isn't the movie/gt section, Bardock can still be way over 1,000.

Chariking · 07-09-2008

whats Bardock's base PL? Multiply it by 50 and compare it to Frieza's 265,000 and powered up 530,000.

SSJ4 Vegito · 07-09-2008

Bardock's level after healing was 10,000.

hero_764 · 07-09-2008

I've always wondered, what do people base it on when they say his power level is at 10,000?

Evil Vegeta · 07-09-2008

His power was stated to be 10,000 when he healed.

hero_764 · 07-09-2008

Oh, lol. Haven't seen the Bardock Special in awhile.

louis6578 · 07-10-2008

Bardock Father Of Goku - around 10,000 (post zenkai)

Cannon Universe - (5,000 at the very best and even so it's too high).

Frieza wins because this is the cannon section.

07-09-2008	#1 (permalink)
Zarbon507 (3) Champion of Justice Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Super Saiyan Bardock vs First Form Frieza This question has always been on my mind, the saiyans never really knew about turning super saiyan out of great emotion like how Goku did when he was angry and powered up. So at the ending of bardock the father of goku, before he flies up to Frieza's spaceship, if he were to start powering up with all his anger and become super saiyan, then fly up to frieza, who do you think would have won?

07-09-2008	#2 (permalink)
SSJ4 Vegito (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,572 Rep Power: 7	Re: Super Saiyan Bardock vs First Form Frieza Well at the time he was there he was already injured so going SSJ might regenerate some of his power but I don't think he'd get up to 9,000 (Since is original level is 10,000) 9,000 times 50 would be 450,000. However Freeza didn't have his scouter and would let his guard down (And since he most likely isn't powered up to his Maximum) so that would allow Bardock to attack him like a mad man and if he finishes the fight quickly he would probably win, however his body might not be able to take the stress of the SSJ form for long. So I'd say Bardock has a chance considering how arrogant Freeza is so I'd go with Bardock.

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Kaio (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 385 Rep Power: 5	Re: Super Saiyan Bardock vs First Form Frieza Frieza would win. It's not like it would take a long time for Frieza to power up to the maximum of his first form, as seen on Namek. Frieza has much more devasting techniques than Bardock, including creating giant energy balls in seconds and controllable energy disks; oh, and he has a 1.06 advantage in power too.

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louis6578 (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: You know... that one place... Yeah that one. Posts: 536 Rep Power: 1	Re: Super Saiyan Bardock vs First Form Frieza Seeing how this isn't in the movie/gt section bardock can't be too much over 1000. he can't beat zarbon as an ssj.

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Chariking (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Behind you with a knife Posts: 449 Rep Power: 2	Re: Super Saiyan Bardock vs First Form Frieza whats Bardock's base PL? Multiply it by 50 and compare it to Frieza's 265,000 and powered up 530,000. __________________

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SSJ4 Vegito (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,572 Rep Power: 7	Re: Super Saiyan Bardock vs First Form Frieza Bardock's level after healing was 10,000.

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hero_764 (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 753 Rep Power: 8	Re: Super Saiyan Bardock vs First Form Frieza I've always wondered, what do people base it on when they say his power level is at 10,000? __________________ Top 5 Villains: 1. Vegeta 2. Frieza 3. Android 17 4. King Cold 5. Semi-Perfect Cell(17 absorbed) Top 5 Heroes: 1. Piccolo 2. Nail 3. Goku 4. Dende(i likes mes nameks) 5. Mirai Trunks My Powerlevels

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hero_764 (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 753 Rep Power: 8	Re: Super Saiyan Bardock vs First Form Frieza Oh, lol. Haven't seen the Bardock Special in awhile. __________________ Top 5 Villains: 1. Vegeta 2. Frieza 3. Android 17 4. King Cold 5. Semi-Perfect Cell(17 absorbed) Top 5 Heroes: 1. Piccolo 2. Nail 3. Goku 4. Dende(i likes mes nameks) 5. Mirai Trunks My Powerlevels

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louis6578 (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: You know... that one place... Yeah that one. Posts: 536 Rep Power: 1	Re: Super Saiyan Bardock vs First Form Frieza Bardock Father Of Goku - around 10,000 (post zenkai) Cannon Universe - (5,000 at the very best and even so it's too high). Frieza wins because this is the cannon section.