Tien (23rd Tournament) vs Mr. Popo - Page 3

Evil Vegeta · 05-06-2008

How strong do you have Tambourine & Drum? Also; how strong is Kami, and Piccolo Jr when he fight's Goku? I'm just tryin to see how you have these other powers calculated.

stefzed54 · 05-06-2008

Roshi: 139
Goku: 150
Tien: 150

Tambourine: 130
Drum: 153

Old King Piccolo: 168
Young King Piccolo: 180
Goku: 195 (Holy God Water)

Mr Popo: 200
Kami: 210

23rd Tournament

Yamcha: 160
Krillin: 180
Tien: 205
Goku: 204 (Weights)
Goku: 280 (No Weights)
Piccolo: 203 (Weights)
Piccolo: 279 (No Weights)

Evil Vegeta · 05-06-2008

They're nice and all, but you mean to tell me, Tien get's thrashed by Drum the way he did with a difference of three points in their powers?

SRP76 · 05-06-2008

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Originally Posted by LegendarySSJ7

Dragonball battle powers cannot be done because Toriyama-sensei did not come up with the concept until the beginning of the Saiyan Saga Arc, so as such it does not work in that kind of relation.

Sure they can. As long as people don't try to stick to assumptions that can't be proven, and go by what the manga shows. And they realize the nature of the fighters' power levels (in that they vary). Most people forget all about this last point, and think that, for instance, 416 in the Raditz arc is as high as Goku can go.

stefzed54 · 05-06-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

They're nice and all, but you mean to tell me, Tien get's thrashed by Drum the way he did with a difference of three points in their powers?

Cheers, I remember Drum did pretty much trash Tien didnt he, I guess I could raise Drum to 160, same level as Yamcha at 23rd world martial arts tournament.

Devilz · 05-06-2008

Yamcha (23rd) > Yamcha (beginning of Z)

SRP76 · 05-06-2008

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Originally Posted by Devilz

Yamcha (23rd) > Yamcha (beginning of Z)

You can't prove that. Saying "he has to get weaker because he didn't train, just because we don't see him train" doesn't work. We also don't see him become a chubby fatass, either. Just routine maintenance would keep his power level constant; we can't just assume that a martial artist (or, in this case, a desert bandit) begins watching Oprah all day just because there's a gap in the manga.

stefzed54 · 05-06-2008

SPR76 pretty much said all that needs to be said on that matter, good post.

Devilz · 05-06-2008

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Originally Posted by SRP76

"he has to get weaker because he didn't train, just because we don't see him train" doesn't work.

Sure it does.

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Originally Posted by SRP76

We also don't see him become a chubby fatass, either. Just routine maintenance would keep his power level constant

I don't remember Gohan becoming a chubby fat ass.

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Originally Posted by stefzed54

SPR76 pretty much said all that needs to be said on that matter, good post.

You'd still be wrong regardless because Yamcha isn't 160 in the 23rd tournament.

SRP76 · 05-06-2008

Gohan's a guy who's goal in life is to be a scientist, remember? He's not a fighter. Yamcha is; that's what he does. Beats on people and steals their money and capsules.

Gohan was also said to have stopped working out; Yamcha simply was not.

And Gohan also didn't have a villain hanging over him like a dark cloud, and Yamcha and the crew did at that time. Piccolo's not exactly Santa Claus, you know.

stefzed54 · 05-06-2008

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You'd still be wrong regardless because Yamcha isn't 160 in the 23rd tournament.

Prove it, he's 177 at the start of DBZ, so he'd be a little bit weaker at the end of DB.

Devilz · 05-06-2008

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Prove it, he's 177 at the start of DBZ, so he'd be a little bit weaker at the end of DB.

You're the one who always have people getting ridiculous amount of decreasing power over the years. Now you're going to disagree with me just so you don't have to change your levels, lol.

SRP76 · 05-06-2008

.....I just realized nobody's mentioned Tien vs Popo in awhile.

What is going on exactly? Are we now trying to say Popo was stronger than Yamcha?

Evil Vegeta · 05-06-2008

I thought he was stronger then Yamcha?

stefzed54 · 05-06-2008

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Originally Posted by Devilz

You're the one who always have people getting ridiculous amount of decreasing power over the years. Now you're going to disagree with me just so you don't have to change your levels, lol.

decreasing power? Who?

Looks like you've got it mixed up againt, it would increasing, for instance Yamcha surpassing Ginyu.

05-06-2008	#40 (permalink)
SRP76 (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,689 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 7	Re: Tien (23rd Tournament) vs Mr. Popo Gohan's a guy who's goal in life is to be a scientist, remember? He's not a fighter. Yamcha is; that's what he does. Beats on people and steals their money and capsules. Gohan was also said to have stopped working out; Yamcha simply was not. And Gohan also didn't have a villain hanging over him like a dark cloud, and Yamcha and the crew did at that time. Piccolo's not exactly Santa Claus, you know.

05-06-2008	#43 (permalink)
SRP76 (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,689 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 7	Re: Tien (23rd Tournament) vs Mr. Popo .....I just realized nobody's mentioned Tien vs Popo in awhile. What is going on exactly? Are we now trying to say Popo was stronger than Yamcha?