Android 17 vs Gohan - Page 3

Cyrax · 04-28-2008

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Originally Posted by remixremix

If he was refering to base gohan then i would say ANDROID 17

Please. Don't use fan logic. Base Gohan would fuck android 17 very easily

SRP76 · 04-28-2008

I love how you conveniently only show Goku AFTER he's dragged out of the water by Piccolo, and has all the time in the world to recover (and still needs Krillin's help even in your scan), and yet, go out of your way to show Vegeta on his knees and try to claim he's "near death". Especially since you also show him standing usupported (which you stick in later, to try to make it look like it happened in that order), yet try to claim that he isn't.

So much for your so-called manga help.

And I can't help but notice that you go out of your way to avoid addressing Goku's clear showing of increased power when he went back to base against Frieza. That's twice that you've ducked it.

So here, answer the question:

WHY IS GOKU STRONGER AT THE END OF THE FRIEZA FIGHT THAN HE WAS AT THE BEGINNING?

Devilz · 04-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Cyrax

Base Gohan would fuck android 17 very easily

Gohan's gay?

Cyrax · 04-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Devilz

Gohan's gay?

Probably he confuse 17 with 18.

Deep thought · 04-28-2008

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Originally Posted by SRP76

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And I can't help but notice that you go out of your way to avoid addressing Goku's clear showing of increased power when he went back to base against Frieza. That's twice that you've ducked it.

So here, answer the question:

WHY IS GOKU STRONGER AT THE END OF THE FRIEZA FIGHT THAN HE WAS AT THE BEGINNING?

Volume and page number, please? I don't remember that at all.

I'll get back to you on the near death thing, but I'm a busy man, so.....

Evil Vegeta · 04-28-2008

Goku was being trounced by 50% Freeza, and couldn't even hope to stop any of his attacks. After he reverts to his base form, he evades a kienzan from 100% Freeza, which shouldn't be possible if he wasn't any stronger in his base form.

remixremix · 04-28-2008

Android 17 would win against base gohan

Tuna2 · 04-28-2008

I see Gohan having a slight advantage. Unless he wears himself out against 17's infinite supply of energy, he should win.

Evil Vegeta · 04-28-2008

Well, since Vegeta is powerful enough to fight Semi-Cell in his SSJ form without powering-up into USSJ, his base should be able to handle Android #17 with that. We know Gohan is far more powerful then Vegeta, so his base shouldn't have any trouble against him.

Senzu_Bean · 04-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Well, since Vegeta is powerful enough to fight Semi-Cell in his SSJ form without powering-up into USSJ, his base should be able to handle Android #17 with that. We know Gohan is far more powerful then Vegeta, so his base shouldn't have any trouble against him.

My thoughts exactly.

Deep thought · 04-28-2008

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Originally Posted by SRP76

I love how you conveniently only show Goku AFTER he's dragged out of the water by Piccolo, and has all the time in the world to recover (and still needs Krillin's help even in your scan)

That's about when Goku turned Super Sayajin, he didn't turn Super Sayajin when he got punched or kicked by Freeza and was bleeding. Although, even if he did, he'd still look better than Vegeta.

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Originally Posted by SRP76

and yet, go out of your way to show Vegeta on his knees and try to claim he's "near death".

That wasn't my main point at all. My main point was that Vegeta looked like shit while Goku didn't, and even you cannot deny that Vegeta looks worse than Goku.

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Originally Posted by SRP76

Especially since you also show him standing usupported (which you stick in later, to try to make it look like it happened in that order), yet try to claim that he isn't.

I bet many boxers needed someone's support after a fight, and I bet that someone needed support after a fight. Were any of those people near-death? I highly doubt it. If someone's beaten to bloody pulp, and they are starting to lose consciousness, then do they need medical attention? Probably.

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Originally Posted by SRP76

So much for you're so-called manga help.

Actually, even you, as stubborn as you are, have to admit that you need to be near-death to get a zenkai. Funny how you avoided mentioning that.

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Originally Posted by SRP76

So here, answer the question:

WHY IS GOKU STRONGER AT THE END OF THE FRIEZA FIGHT THAN HE WAS AT THE BEGINNING?

Now that I know what you're talking about (courtesy of EV), I'm surprised that you're using that as your ultimate bit of evidence, but whatever. Techniques aren't as fast as the people who use them, this can be proven when normal human beings can see Kamehameha waves and the like. Yet, if the techniques were as fast as the user, all they would've saw was a flash and the damage caused by the move. Besides, name one instance where moves are as fast as hey people using them.

stefzed54 · 04-28-2008

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Originally Posted by SRP76

Dabura, who was even with Cell, who was a bit above Super Saiyan Goku (Cell Games).

Disagree.

deckzone3000 · 04-29-2008

I think android 17 would win.

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Originally Posted by SRP76

Super Saiyan Gohan was even with Dabura, who was even with Cell, who was a bit above Super Saiyan Goku (Cell Games).

You're just assuming what level of Cell Goku was referring to.

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Originally Posted by SRP76

WHY IS GOKU STRONGER AT THE END OF THE FRIEZA FIGHT THAN HE WAS AT THE BEGINNING?

He's not.

maxoutedssj4 · 04-29-2008

Base Gohan(Tournament Saga) wins easily. MSSj Gohan(Buu Arc) is around Dabura's power thus meaning he is around Pefect Cell's power. So with that being said, I imagine his Base being between Android 16 power level and SSj Vegeta(Post roast not ssj 2nd grade) power level.

stefzed54 · 04-29-2008

Android 17 would win.

04-28-2008	#32 (permalink)
SRP76 (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,267 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 29	Re: Android 17 vs Gohan I love how you conveniently only show Goku AFTER he's dragged out of the water by Piccolo, and has all the time in the world to recover (and still needs Krillin's help even in your scan), and yet, go out of your way to show Vegeta on his knees and try to claim he's "near death". Especially since you also show him standing usupported (which you stick in later, to try to make it look like it happened in that order), yet try to claim that he isn't. So much for your so-called manga help. And I can't help but notice that you go out of your way to avoid addressing Goku's clear showing of increased power when he went back to base against Frieza. That's twice that you've ducked it. So here, answer the question: *WHY IS GOKU STRONGER AT THE END OF THE FRIEZA FIGHT THAN HE WAS AT THE BEGINNING?*

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remixremix (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Neptune Posts: 3,240 Rep Power: 50	Re: Android 17 vs Gohan Android 17 would win against base gohan __________________

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Tuna2 Bleach Ranked (16) Exequias Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 520 Rep Power: 4	Re: Android 17 vs Gohan I see Gohan having a slight advantage. Unless he wears himself out against 17's infinite supply of energy, he should win.

04-29-2008	#44 (permalink)
maxoutedssj4 (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 850 Rep Power: 29	Re: Android 17 vs Gohan Base Gohan(Tournament Saga) wins easily. MSSj Gohan(Buu Arc) is around Dabura's power thus meaning he is around Pefect Cell's power. So with that being said, I imagine his Base being between Android 16 power level and SSj Vegeta(Post roast not ssj 2nd grade) power level.