Evil Vegeta

I'm saying if his increase to MSSJ isn't more then 2x, and he's capable of destroying Majin Buu, then he can't be weaker then Majin Vegeta in his base.

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Devilz

Well his increase to MSSJ is obviously more than 2x. :)

Evil Vegeta

So, you think Majin Buu's upgrade to Super Buu is a 2x increase or more?

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SRP76

Sure he could.

Vegeta = 100
Gotenks = 110
Buu = 150
Super Saiyan Gotenks = 180

See? Less than double, but still enough, no problem.

EDIT:

OHHHHH, you said "weaker" than Vegeta. Okay:

Gotenks = 100
Vegeta = 110
Buu = 150
Super Saiyan Gotenks = 180

There. It can be worked out with no sweat.

Devilz

Yup. I have it at 4.24x (Fat Buu against Goku ---> Super Buu)

Evil Vegeta

Nice one.

That much, really? Super Gotenks was about equal with Super Buu, and I believe his multiplier was 2-3x if that. Buu's upgrade shouldn't be anywhere near 4x in my opinion.

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LegendaryBroli

Base gotenks could beat majin vegeta because he was just fooling around with fat buu and I believe if he was serious he could have inflicted more damage on him than vegeta had on buu.

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Devilz

Not really, Super Buu was just fooling around with him, he's much superior. SSJ3 Gotenks vs Super Buu was about even, with Gotenks holding a slight edge.

If you want complete levels then...

Base Gotenks - 42
SSJ2 Goku - 100
SSJ3 Goku - 300
SSJ Gotenks - 315
SSJ Gotenks (rosat) - 395
SSJ3 Gotenks - 1,185

Fat Buu (against Goku) - 252
Super Buu - 1,068

Evil Vegeta

My bad. When I refer to Super Gotenks, I'm talkin about SSJ3 Gotenks.

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ANB

Uh...he had no reason to fool around. If I recall, he ran off half-cocked anouncing that he would "take care of Boo" and when he came back everyone facepalmed when he said "I got my ass kicked!". Piccolo was pissed.

Vegeta got whooped too, but he looked good doing it. He always looks good, even when he's loosing. It's a little hard to tell, but Vegeta is almost certainly >/= Base Gotenks.

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Scinfaxi

The Fat Buu that owned Gotenks was much stronger than the Fat Buu that got owned by SSJ2 Majin Vegeta. Remember that when Fat Buu gets angry, his power increases but never goes down, evidenced by the fact that he got angry, powered up to thump Vegeta, calmed down and then fought evenly with SSJ3 Goku without having to get angry again.

That suggests that his angry power ups don't vanish between fights, the power that has been brought to the surface remains there.

SSJ Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku >= Fat Buu (angry) > SSJ2 Majin Vegeta > Fat Buu > Gotenks

Senzu_Bean

It isn't certainly if Fat Majin Buu can't increases his power without get angry. That would explain how he fought evenly with SSj3 Goku.

gad_is_here

Gotenks Post ROSAT would PWN Vegeta

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Scinfaxi

Which form vs which form? I doubt base Gotenks could touch any of the SSJ2s, but SSJ Gotenks would slaughter them all at the same time.

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NarutoFan

It's a pretty well known belief that SSJ Gotenks is able to defeat SSJ3 Goku without any difficulty, so it's not out of question, Base Gotenks, after training in the Room of Sprit and Time, wouldn't be capable of defeating Majin Vegetal.