Zer0

Nobodies resisted it yet. Itachi says somebody with Sharingan can make some resistance but only a true Sharingan user can defeat him.

Again I really don't see a reason for Itachi to use it. He'd probably use a normal Genjutsu.

Also the only people I see beating him are Artificial Human #16, Kishime, Ebifurya, and Misokattsun if you want to include the movies...

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warcrack

You mentioned Kid Boo at one point, which I thought was interesting.

Zer0

I just mentioned it would be a better match-up mostly because he regenerates and wouldn't give a second thought at blowing up the earth. I still think he'd lose.

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As far as resisting Itachi's control is concerned, no. Just...no. Because, as Island said, Chakra and Ki are different. However, if we assume that the two are one in the same, it makes no difference; using his Sharingan or some other means, Itachi inserts his own chakra into his target, which flows to the brain via the chakra network, where it fucks with you and takes over your senses, motor functions, etc. Vegeto can speed up his Ki/Chakra flow all he wants, but Itachi will still get into his head. At that point, the only way to stop the Genjutsu is to stop the flow, then reverse it. However, this is stated, not proven. Naruto, who has just about limitless energy, tried this trick on Itachi, and not only did it do little of...anything, Itachi stopped him from concentrating by having him torn up by hundreds of shuriken. Then he made him start choking himself and seeing his friends growing out of his body like tumors to insult him. :/

Sharingan can also resist Itachi's Genjutsu, but Itachi has Sharingan as well, and even a higher form called "Mangekyou Sharingan", which is like the "Super Saiyan" of Sharingan (Frieza Arc; not the whored-out Super Saiyan forms that became available to eight-year-olds later on).

Itachi stated that only a true Sharingan user can defeat him. And since regular Sharingan might as well be nonexistant when used against him, this implies that he means a Mangekyou Sharingan user.

Another little fun fact to choke on: We know Itachi can control time, space, and mass within the Tsukuyomi. However, we later see that the Mangekyou Sharingan can also manipulate space and mass in the real world, so there's no telling what kind of other God-like abilities Itachi can pull out of nowhere.


EDIT: Yeah, it's an AMV. I don't care. THIS is what happens when you fight Itachi:

YouTube - Itachi Tribute: Let the Bodies Hit the Floor AMV

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Zer0

Question.
Tsukuyomi is its own dimension?

To add to the list Sergeant Metallic.

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Nikushimi

Tsukuyomi is stated to be a dimension by Kakashi, stated to be another world by Itachi, and is ultimately a Genjutsu.

We know very little about it, but it could be that it goes deeper than simple Genjutsu. In fact, that might explain why it's impossible to resist.




As far as inorganic/brainless opponents are concerned, there's always Amaterasu. ;D And as I said, Mangekyou Sharingan seems to have the ability to manipulate the real world as well.

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ANB

1) Vegerot doesn't have chakra. If you want to talk up discussion of their differences then you also have to include that each universe has their own laws.

Even if Vegerot could be influenced by chakra so what? He can handle 300 mutha-trucking g's. And if he tried to alter his "chakra" (irrefutably similar to chi) Vegerot could suppress his power-level. Total Chi-control is learned waaay back in the Vegeta saga. It can be increased or decreased sporadically. And when it's time to get serious they can release it "in one tremendous burst". They can even do it while Super Saiyajin.

2) ^IFF those points are n/a, then Vegerot has instant transmission.

3) "...'Mangekyou Sharingan', which is like the 'Super Saiyan' of Sharingan (Frieza Arc; not the whored-out Super Saiyan forms that became available to eight-year-olds later on),"

You boned yourself here Kakashi was what, ten when he got his sharingen...? And Itachi was young too.

4) Huh? It doesn't imply that. The statement means unless you are far more superior you cannot defeat his techniques. Fight fire with fire. Why would you need to go through all that shit to get a mangekyou then master it and you might beat him...? Those rules are not universal and are thus n/a to DBZ universe. Were we to speculate you need a mengekyou then Sasuke's fate is already known :/

5) When was Itachi affecting the real world??? Srsly, I think some of your points are b.s-spun.

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Zer0

So if Shin Buu level and higher fighters scream out would they break out of it (although that means Itachi would have to give his little speech first)?

Again there wouldn't be a reason to use Tsukuyomi, or the Mangekyou, in the first place. Itachi seems to reserve that for "special" people. Ugly robot guys aren't that special. Also it seems that Itachi has to close his eyes before activating it.

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Watch how you talk to Nikushimi, ANB.


Fact: Chakra is not Ki & vice versa.

Fact: Kakashi, also a Mangekyou User bent reality by creating a rift in the dimension.

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ANB

@ Island: So if chakra isn't ki Vegerot isn't affected. And he could handle it. Being that much stronger must account for something.

@Zer0: Shin Boo shatters dimensions just by screaming. You want me to post a scan...?

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Island of 1,000 Condiments

Itachi uses Tsukuyomi, not raw chakra.


Tsukuyomi basically breaks anything with a mind.

In a dimension which Itachi is basically God.

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Zer0

I know. He shatters relatively small openings that disappear pretty quickly. Also if the fighter doesn't hear the speech then they wouldn't try to scream there way out.

Again, why does everyone keep thinking Itachi would bust out Tsukuyomi in the first place?

Also ANB brings up a good point. No Chakra means the Genjutsu wouldn't work. Tsukuyomi would still but normal Genjutsu would have no effect unless we "give" the Z fighters Chakra for this fight.

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Island of 1,000 Condiments

I never implied Itachi would use Tsukuyomi immediately.

I'm only replying to the fact that members argue it would fail to kill Vegeto.


Chakra: Chakra is raw Spiritual energy used to charge Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and some Taijutsu skills. It is harnessed through the body, and is used as an energy source for Elements, Summonings, etc. However, in some instances, it is used offensively, such as Rasengan. In this instance, it is a pure substance of energy, nothing more, nothing less. In Genjutsu, it is merely the power supply of the technique. For example, in order to perform illusions, Itachi must use Chakra to alter his surroundings.

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Zer0

Uh, I thought all Genjutsus disrupted the Chakra flow?

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ANB

Zer0: None of the Z fighters would know a manegkyou is about to be unleashed, let alone sharingan.

Only...it doesn't make a but of difference guys:

He would reject the Tsuko-whatever. PLus, he has the barrier attack used to avoid being absorbed by Shin Boohan. The eyes are inert.

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Chakra: Chakra is raw Spiritual energy used to charge Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, and some Taijutsu skills. It is harnessed through the body, and is used as an energy source for Elements, Summonings, etc. However, in some instances, it is used offensively, such as Rasengan. In this instance, it is a pure substance of energy, nothing more, nothing less. In Genjutsu, it is merely the power supply of the technique. For example, in order to perform illusions, Itachi must use Chakra to alter his surroundings.

I don't want to be disrespectfull, but...lulz.

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