an0nym0us

You didn't respond to what i asked you.

Genjutsu is created when a ninja extends their chakra flow through the cerebral nervous system of their opponent to control their chakra, thereby affecting their five senses.


Majin-Boo failed to alter Vegetto's energy/chakra, what makes you think Itachi's chakra flow can do it?

If Itachi's chakra flow can alter Vegetto's chakra/energy. Prove me that Itachi's chakra flow is superior than Henka Beam.

Itachi's chakra flow - alters the victim's chakra

Henka Beam - alters everything

Masked_Felix

Someone else has probably gotten to this already by the time I post this, but here's scans. Also included, here is the one where it's said that no one but another Mangekyou user could possibly defeat Itachi inside Tsukuyomi. Which would mean that Vegetto would still lose to Tsukuyomi whether he's a SSJ or a SSJ Over 9,000 and everything in between.





Kakashi says, right there, that if Itachi wanted, he could have killed him. However, Itachi went easy on him, and Kakashi was still out of it. He had the Sharingan, and he still was bedridden after the event until tended to by Tsunade. Sasuke wasn't even getting "real" torture, and was put in a coma that he only got out of when the greatest Medical Ninja alive tended to him personally. Itachi can kill at will in the Tsukuyomi. He chose not to for reasons that can be theorized on, but not revealed as of yet.

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an0nym0us

Tsukuyomi = Genjutsu

Stop ignoring the fact that Genjutsu is created when a ninja extends their chakra flow through the cerebral nervous system of their opponent to control their chakra, thereby affecting their five senses.

Chakra Flow - alters the chakra

Henka Beam - alters everything

what makes you think itachi's chakra flow can do it? give me one good reason

Fred

WHEN DID I IGNORE THAT. WHEN DID ANYONE...GRRR THIS IS INFURITATING, FUCK IT, I'M UNSUBSCRIBING TO THIS TOPIC.

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an0nym0us

Since Majin-Boo failed to alter Vegetto's Energy, are you trying to suggests that:

Chakra Flow >>>> Henka Beam

Prove me

Fred

I explained their totally unrelated, in three accounts, on the last three pages, I think you missed my most recent one, because that one was totally self-explanatory. It's not an opinion, theory, or inference.

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Masked_Felix

You = Broken Record.

Stop...no...You got that part correct. Too bad you don't seem to understand any of it.

Chakra Flow - Uses Chakra in the Nervous System to manipulate what information the brain receives from the senses. Can be used as a direct mental attack.

Henka Beam - A magical beam shown to transform a person into a food item, though more effects are possible, IIRC. In the process of transforming a being into candy, the person becomes inanimate. Not meant as a mental attack.

There are 31 pages of reasons. =/. Here's one for you to chew on, though: Itachi doesn't have to overcome Vegetto's power, which is what Majin-Buu tried to do. He just leaks in Chakra and has at it. See figure 1 for details.

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an0nym0us

Prove me that when you become a candy, your mind is not affected

I didn't say it has something to do with power.

Since Majin-Boo failed to alter Vegetto's Energy, are you trying to suggests that:

Chakra Flow >>>> Henka Beam

Prove me

Nikushimi

Gaining control over Vegeto's "chakra" is...easy, for any Genjutsu user, because there is no resistance there. There is no resistance, ever, unless...Vegeto consciously resists, and to do so, he needs to know how to counteract the chakra flow precisely, and even then, Itachi is not just going to sit back and...let him.

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an0nym0us

Vegetto doen't need to know how to counteract, his energy was invulnerable enough to counteract as he kept his energy in inanimate object.

Fred

That's like comparing rape to brain surgery; they affect your mind, but not in the same ways.

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an0nym0us

Vegetto doen't need to know how to counteract, his energy was invulnerable enough to counteract as he kept his energy in inanimate object.

It's not the same way but being inanimate is worst because it was not provided with any life at all. instantly zero..

Masked_Felix

No. In that quote, I don't even mention that a person doesn't get an affected mind. I simply say that it's not meant as direct way to assault the mind. It's purpose is to get Fat Buu some eats.



Oh really, now? Fooled me.

It depends on what you mean. Genjutsu, in it's effect on Vegetto, most definately >>>> Henka Beam. They don't work the same way. So, other than it's effect on Vegetto, they really aren't comparable. What you've been trying to suggest this whole topic with the Henka Beam is like trying to jam the cube into a triangle hole.


Consider yourself proved. Again.

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an0nym0us

are you stating your opinion? please respond to what I post.

Prove me that when you become a candy, your mind is not affected.

Yes they don't work the same way but:

chakra flow - alters the chakra

henka beam - alters everything once it hits you

I said, prove me that in terms of altering:

chakra flow >>> henka beam

Fred

Chakra is always flowing, when it's reversed it gives an attacker opportunity to strike on the mind.

This means that the chakra flow is altered 100%, being that it's been changed into it's exact opposite.

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