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Old 12-02-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default SSj2 Adult Gohan vs. USSj2 Trunks (Without the loss of speed.)

Who wins

do think a ussj2 is just as powerful as a ssj2?

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gohan is much weaker as an adult prior to being mystic gohan
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Default Re: SSJ2 adult Gohan vs USSJ2 Trunks(without the loss of speed)

Trunks was amazed at mssj Goku when he went to half of his full power.

So mssj Goku (half of full power)>>>ascended ssj type 2 Trunks

And if we made a big chain:

ssj2 Gohan (Buu Arc)>>>mssj Gohan (full power)>mssj Goku (full power)>>>mssj Goku (half of full power)>>>ascended ssj type 2 Trunks
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Default Re: SSJ2 adult Gohan vs USSJ2 Trunks(without the loss of speed)

Mastered Super Saiya-jin Gokuu (Full Power) was stronger than Super Saiya-jin Type 3 Torankusu. So without a doubt Super Saiya-jin 2 Gohan (Buu Arc) is much, much stronger.
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Old 12-02-2007   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: SSj2 Adult Gohan vs. USSj2 Trunks (Without the loss of speed.)

Any ultra super sayian state may be stronger then a normla SSJ but not as strong as a MSSJ or SSJ2.

R=regular nonmastered super sayian
RSSJ<USSJ1<USSJ2<<MSSJ<<SSJ2
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Default Re: SSj2 Adult Gohan vs. USSj2 Trunks (Without the loss of speed.)

For me, MSSJ =USSJ

So, Gohan wins.
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Default Re: SSj2 Adult Gohan vs. USSj2 Trunks (Without the loss of speed.)

You mind explaining why you think that? Not to get into a debate, but I just want to know why, especially after it's stated time and time again otherwise.
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Default Re: SSj2 Adult Gohan vs. USSj2 Trunks (Without the loss of speed.)

they may be equal in ki maybe thats what he's refering to but still mssj is much faster so mssj>>>ussj
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Default Re: SSj2 Adult Gohan vs. USSj2 Trunks (Without the loss of speed.)

It's pretty much stated that there is a huge gap in power between MSsj and Ssj 3rd Grade, so it's more than just the speed that makes the MSsj superior to any other of the Ssj subforms.
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Default Re: SSj2 Adult Gohan vs. USSj2 Trunks (Without the loss of speed.)

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they may be equal in ki maybe thats what he's refering to but still mssj is much faster so mssj>>>ussj
Yes.

I think a FPSSJ = USSJ without the lost of speed.

By the way, itīs not stated MSSJ > USSJ. Base Goku is > than base Trunks, so... MSSJ Goku > USSJ Trunks, no?
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Default Re: SSj2 Adult Gohan vs. USSj2 Trunks (Without the loss of speed.)

Thats ridiculous a SSJ2 is way stronger than an USSJ2. Yes, even if a ssj2 stayed 7 years without fighting.
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Default Re: SSj2 Adult Gohan vs. USSj2 Trunks (Without the loss of speed.)

What makes a FPSSJ/MSSJ much much more superior is the fact that the user doesn't waste as much energy tranforming and doesn't waste as much fighting.

FPSSP/MSSJ would have been superior to USSJ anyway, even without the speed being an issue. SSJ2 versus USSJ would be a bloodbath.
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