Zer0

WTF?

Thats like a Gohan Shin Buu difference. Hell that a Burori everybody else in Movie 8 sized difference...

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Majuub

1,33 is what it takes to kill your opponent without effort, it is enormous, if base Goku was 1,6x stronger than base Vegeta, the difference would remain the same in their fight as SSJ's. If Goku was that strong, Majin Vegeta wouldn't even has been a match for him, he would kill him in a single blow. The difference between Goku and Vegeta is really low, something in the range of 1,05x-1,1x I wouldn't go higher. 1,33x isn't small, it's enormous.

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Deep Thought

SSJ Gogeta, easily. The fusion multiplier just simply isn't that low.

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SRP76

Majin Vegeta > Vegeta.

Babidi's magic makes a fighter stronger. Maybe even 60% stronger.

Majuub

Nothing suggests it raises the power of a being that much, espacially when the being is in control of himself and not under the control of Babidi, we can assume his magic doesn't work the same way for Vegeta. Even though, Vegeta had a zenkai shortly after.

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deckzone3000

And?
You should put that in your signature, that way you wont have to type it out so often, which you seem to do. lol

They never fight each other in SSJ form.
We are talking about Vegeta, not Majin Vegeta.
I'm guessing you have base Goku to SSJ2 Goku the same exact increase as base Vegeta to SSJ2 Vegeta? Well, I don't.

No he didn't.

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SRP76

Spopovitch suggests it. He goes from weaker than Mr. Satan, to stronger than Videl (who is stated to be stronger than her father).

Majin Spopovitch > Videl > Mr. Satan > Spopovitch. I don't think 60% would be too much to cover that gap.

Majuub

He died, Vegeta stated that after each fight a saiyan becomes stronger, the near death experience is because the saiyan gets injured a lot, so his system adapts to the strength of the opponent, the more baddly you get hit, the stronger you'll get, Vegeta was beaten up by Majin Buu he got hit alot, so it's obvious his power raised. What a good point to back up your statement, at least try to prove it.
Well, from base to SSJ it would be a 5x multiplier, from SSJ to SSJ2 it would be a 3-5x multiplier, why would Goku has a higher or lower multiplier than Vegeta, they will have the exact same multiplier.
You don't seem to get it, to say 1,33x is small is ridiculous, Vegeta was at 24,000 and Kiwi at 18,000, Kiwi put up a miserable fight before getting blasted by Vegeta. You can't say 1,33x is small, because that part of the story basicalyy proves that if you're actually that far from your opponent, you're on another level. It's a fact, 1,33x is big. Not as big as the transformations or the SSJ multipliers though. Be 1,33x stronger than your ennemy, he won't stand a chance, it's about the same difference in power between Chou Gohan and Shin Buu, so, their gap in power was small, or enormous?
That's what I said, Vegeta wasn't under babidi's control, thus his power didn't raise as much as Spopovich's because he wasn't completely under the will of the Majin Seal, it did make him stronger but the difference of 1,6x is just a matter of interpretation and according to me it's way to high. If it was really a 1,6x multiplier then Goku would be to far above Vegeta at base and he wasn't. Vegeta never fought Goku in his SSJ2 normal state so we can't possibily know the multiplier of the Majin seal. Just for the sake to make it easier let's say is power stays the same.

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Devilz

Considering the difference between them was much greater in the Cell Games, I don't see 1.6x as unreasonable.

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deckzone3000

That isn't the point in time I thought you were referring to, but I still disagree with you here anyway. Vegeta saying that saiyans get stronger after each fight is a anime-only line I believe. Only thing I remember him saying in the manga was about coming back from a near death experience.
Vegeta got beat up by Buu, but he wasn't exactly near death when he decided to blow himself up.
And then there is the point that no saiyan ever gets a zenkai after the Frieza saga.

Do you think Gohan during the cell games has the same multipliers as well?

1.33x is small. It means a lot in a fight, but that's all.
If the z-fighters just kept increasing their power by 1.33x after zenkais or other power ups, it would take them forever to reach Frieza's level.

I wouldn't say someone being 1.33x is on a whole other level either, because with the increases we see fighters go through in DBZ all the time, it's an easy difference to catch up to.

I think SSJ2 Vegeta(before becoming Majin Vegeta) was just a little stronger than SSJ2 Gohan(cell games).

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Ultimate_Gohan

ss gogeta would beat buu to death.

Michael_Myers

SSJ Gogeta in a stomp