SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ3 Gotenks - Page 6

11-04-2007

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Originally Posted by Majuub

Goku wasn't refering to SSJ3 Gotenks since he had no idea the fusion could reach that, he wasn't refering to SSJ2 either since he said they might need the room of spirit and time, it means if Gotenks wasn't strong enough he would train to get stronger, only as SSJ, he didn't even know Gotenks could reach SSJ2, he thought he was strong enough in his SSJ state to take out Fat Buu. Goku was even impressed when Gotenks reached SSJ3 because he didn't expect him to go that high. He didn't panic when he sensed Shin Buu because he was focusing his attention on Gohan. I have the version in french and the elder Kai said in the universe, he was including Goku who didn't contradict him. Even if you put Goku at SSJ2 Gotenks level he would still be much weaker than Shin Buu. Goku didn't know that Gotenks could reach SSJ2 or SSJ3, that logic alone tears appart your whole post.

I've already countered everything you said there so there's no point in continuing because you are just repeating yourself and completly ignoring my arguments. I'll repeat this one more time and if you can't understand, fine by me. Goku didn't panic when sensing Super Boo's power despite the fact that SSJ Gotenks (Pre Rosat) is vastly inferior to Super Boo thus Goku wasn't relying on the power Gotenks displayed Pre Rosat to defeat Boo. Simple. And since you ignored the other arguments I guess this discussion is over.

FierceGamer · 11-04-2007

You shouldn't be so dismissive of the opinions of others. It's rude. Evil Buu defeated Majin Buu who was already strong enough to make SS3 Goku sweat bullets after their encounter. Then he absorbed him and became a much, much stronger fighter, Super Buu. Are you trying to say that when Vegeta removes Majin Buu from Super Buu he becomes ... stronger? How do you figure that? You're trying to say that absorbing Majin Buu made Buu stronger and that removing Majin Buu made Buu stronger again. That's completely senseless.

11-04-2007

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Originally Posted by FierceGamer

You shouldn't be so dismissive of the opinions of others. It's rude.

What exactly do you find rude ?

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Originally Posted by FierceGamer

Evil Buu defeated Majin Buu who was already strong enough to make SS3 Goku sweat bullets after their encounter.

Goku wasn't even trying in his encounter with Majin Boo, only stalling for time. He even said that he didn't want to defeat him because he wanted the younger generation to do it eventough he could have.Not to mention that once expelling Evil Boo, Majin Boo became weaker because Evil Boo took most of his power. Majin Boo > Evil Boo > Mr Boo

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Originally Posted by FierceGamer

Then he absorbed him and became a much, much stronger fighter, Super Buu

Saying Super Boo is "much,much stronger" than Majin Boo is just an assumption and not an accurate one really. Krillin didn't even notice the difference and when Piccolo talked about the transformation he didn't exactly say that he is that much stronger than Majin Boo but more about the fact that his body is more suitable for fighting and that he is more evil .

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Originally Posted by FierceGamer

Are you trying to say that when Vegeta removes Majin Buu from Super Buu he becomes ... stronger? How do you figure that? You're trying to say that absorbing Majin Buu made Buu stronger and that removing Majin Buu made Buu stronger again. That's completely senseless.

That's because none of the Kaioshins could have/have made Boo stronger once he absorbed them thus the original form is stronger than both Majin Boo and Super Boo, who are both weaker than Buff Boo who Kid Boo is at least equal to (the South Kaioshin either made him weaker or didn't affect him in the slightest).

Evil Vegeta · 11-04-2007

All of that is nice and all, but Goku said to Vegeta they would get their asses handed to them if they even tried to challenge Super Buu. Goku would not be a match for Super Buu, and it's that simple.

I do agree that Super Buu isn't way stronger then Kid Buu, because of Piccolo's comment.

**Majuub** · 11-05-2007

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Originally Posted by Michael_Myers

I've already countered everything you said there so there's no point in continuing because you are just repeating yourself and completly ignoring my arguments. I'll repeat this one more time and if you can't understand, fine by me. Goku didn't panic when sensing Super Boo's power despite the fact that SSJ Gotenks (Pre Rosat) is vastly inferior to Super Boo thus Goku wasn't relying on the power Gotenks displayed Pre Rosat to defeat Boo. Simple. And since you ignored the other arguments I guess this discussion is over.

In fact it's the opposite, you didn't counter any of my arguments concerning Gotenks because Goku didn,t know Gotenks could reach SSJ2 or SSJ3 he was counting on SSJ Gotenks power, I don't see how you can counter that point.
In fact, when Goku said they couldn't fuse no more, Vegeta called him an idiot or something like that, because he didn,t want Buu to know that they couldn't fuse because individually they didn't stand a chance.

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FierceGamer (13) Great Ape Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 286 Rep Power: 2	Re: SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ3 Gotenks You shouldn't be so dismissive of the opinions of others. It's rude. Evil Buu defeated Majin Buu who was already strong enough to make SS3 Goku sweat bullets after their encounter. Then he absorbed him and became a much, much stronger fighter, Super Buu. Are you trying to say that when Vegeta removes Majin Buu from Super Buu he becomes ... stronger? How do you figure that? You're trying to say that absorbing Majin Buu made Buu stronger and that removing Majin Buu made Buu stronger again. That's completely senseless. __________________ One day Chuck Norris walked down the street with a massive erection ... there were no survivors.