Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta

ixidor · 03-31-2007

I have many doubts on this one. Opinions?

**Zer0** · 03-31-2007

Done before again.
Piccolo was probably stronger, definetly faster.

ixidor · 03-31-2007

Why faster? Ussj lost speed, yet there are no clues if assj lost speed as well

**Zer0** · 03-31-2007

I am confused which form are you talking about second grade super saiyan or third grade super saiyan?

ixidor · 03-31-2007

Usually i said assj=second grade super sayan and ussj=third grade super sayan. Well, as i said, assj vegeta doesn't seem to lose speed...

**Zer0** · 03-31-2007

I always thought both of those forms lose speed it was just that second grade super saiyan's decrease was just a minimal one.

ixidor · 03-31-2007

But wait, but if vegeta loses speed, then wait, i will just make another vs to clear my doubt.

Broly · 03-31-2007

Vegeta does'nt lose speed in 2nd Grade. Only in 3rd Grade does one lose speed due to excessive amounts of bulk and muscle.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 04-01-2007

I don't know what's with all the hooplah about having to 'lose speed' in SSj Type 2 (since the speed loss concern should be minimized as it's an augmentation in speed if anything else; the motions are just intensely limited and hindered to sweeping blows since there IS some strain due to all that muscle mass and some effort is put into the tremendous blows with some intensity with pulsating veins, not of one's own volition), but Piccolo; both because of MSSj Goku's rather affable and positive comment and because Piccolo surviving the beatdown received from Cell's Juniors (something SSj Type 2 Vegeta, post 1st-RoSaT couldn't do against quite a suppressed Complete Cell who had a similar battle power by contrast to Cell's Juniors) goes to further the belief of him beating SSj 2nd Grade Vegeta (post 1st-RoSaT) by a notable margin, in my view (and many a select person's).

**JAIF** · 04-01-2007

In the manga, Piccolo fared quite similarly against the Cell jrs as ASSj Vegeta, who was leaps and bounds ahead of pre-RoSaT ASSj Vegeta. I believe there wouldn't really be a contest between the two. Piccolo would take it with ease.

ixidor · 04-01-2007

Both of you are confusing manga with anime. In MANGA piccolo wasn't able to catch up with the cell jr, so be 20 or 200% weaker wouldn't matter, he would still be weaker....

**LegendarySSJ7** · 04-01-2007

[quote user="ixidor"]Both of you are confusing manga with anime. In MANGA piccolo wasn't able to catch up with the cell jr, so be 20 or 200% weaker wouldn't matter, he would still be weaker....[/quote]Actually, believe as you will, but we aren't confusing anything with anything. To the best light of that renumeration, if that was the case then Kuririn would be able to fight Cell's Juniors to a stand-still. Yes, we know the anime doesn't make for a good template for guaging, as said many a banal post. The elements in the Manga that involve the surviving Piccolo of a beatdown against Cell's Juniors (who wield similar power to that of the most suppressed Complete Cell who SSj Type 2 Vegeta [post-1st RoSaT run] was nailed to the back into unconsciousness by on a caprice, again, to reiterate) is what has him slighting SSj Type 2 Vegeta by a certain amount, in power, by my view (and select other's, to be meticulous).

The Chibi Kiriyama · 04-01-2007

Personal opinion:
Piccolo 'post-Rosat' > Assj Vegeta (1st time through)
Piccolo 'post-Rosat' < Assj Vegeta (2nd time through)

Axle Starr · 04-04-2007

Vegeta. I can see Piccolo contending with Semi-Perfect Cell. Vegeta was shown easily defeating Semi-Perfect Cell

03-31-2007	#1 (permalink)
ixidor (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,158 Rep Power: 4	Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta I have many doubts on this one. Opinions?

03-31-2007	#2 (permalink)
Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,113 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 133	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta Done before again. Piccolo was probably stronger, definetly faster. __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.

03-31-2007	#3 (permalink)
ixidor (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,158 Rep Power: 4	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta Why faster? Ussj lost speed, yet there are no clues if assj lost speed as well

03-31-2007	#4 (permalink)
Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,113 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 133	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta I am confused which form are you talking about second grade super saiyan or third grade super saiyan? __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.

03-31-2007	#5 (permalink)
ixidor (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,158 Rep Power: 4	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta Usually i said assj=second grade super sayan and ussj=third grade super sayan. Well, as i said, assj vegeta doesn't seem to lose speed...

03-31-2007	#6 (permalink)
Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,113 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 133	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta I always thought both of those forms lose speed it was just that second grade super saiyan's decrease was just a minimal one. __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.

03-31-2007	#7 (permalink)
ixidor (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,158 Rep Power: 4	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta But wait, but if vegeta loses speed, then wait, i will just make another vs to clear my doubt.

03-31-2007	#8 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,538 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 31	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta Vegeta does'nt lose speed in 2nd Grade. Only in 3rd Grade does one lose speed due to excessive amounts of bulk and muscle. __________________ $E:\Avatars\I am [not] God.JPG$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8 Silence is golden, ducktape is silver, a bullet is bronze.

04-01-2007	#9 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,709 Rep Power: 45	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta I don't know what's with all the hooplah about having to 'lose speed' in SSj Type 2 (since the speed loss concern should be minimized as it's an augmentation in speed if anything else; the motions are just intensely limited and hindered to sweeping blows since there IS some strain due to all that muscle mass and some effort is put into the tremendous blows with some intensity with pulsating veins, not of one's own volition), but Piccolo; both because of MSSj Goku's rather affable and positive comment and because Piccolo surviving the beatdown received from Cell's Juniors (something SSj Type 2 Vegeta, post 1st-RoSaT couldn't do against quite a suppressed Complete Cell who had a similar battle power by contrast to Cell's Juniors) goes to further the belief of him beating SSj 2nd Grade Vegeta (post 1st-RoSaT) by a notable margin, in my view (and many a select person's). __________________

04-01-2007	#10 (permalink)
JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Piercing the Heavens and stuff. Posts: 5,808 Rep Power: 58	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta In the manga, Piccolo fared quite similarly against the Cell jrs as ASSj Vegeta, who was leaps and bounds ahead of pre-RoSaT ASSj Vegeta. I believe there wouldn't really be a contest between the two. Piccolo would take it with ease. __________________ Empty until further notice.

04-01-2007	#11 (permalink)
ixidor (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,158 Rep Power: 4	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta Both of you are confusing manga with anime. In MANGA piccolo wasn't able to catch up with the cell jr, so be 20 or 200% weaker wouldn't matter, he would still be weaker....

04-01-2007	#12 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,709 Rep Power: 45	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta [quote user="ixidor"]Both of you are confusing manga with anime. In MANGA piccolo wasn't able to catch up with the cell jr, so be 20 or 200% weaker wouldn't matter, he would still be weaker....[/quote]Actually, believe as you will, but we aren't confusing anything with anything. To the best light of that renumeration, if that was the case then Kuririn would be able to fight Cell's Juniors to a stand-still. Yes, we know the anime doesn't make for a good template for guaging, as said many a banal post. The elements in the Manga that involve the surviving Piccolo of a beatdown against Cell's Juniors (who wield similar power to that of the most suppressed Complete Cell who SSj Type 2 Vegeta [post-1st RoSaT run] was nailed to the back into unconsciousness by on a caprice, again, to reiterate) is what has him slighting SSj Type 2 Vegeta by a certain amount, in power, by my view (and select other's, to be meticulous). __________________

04-01-2007	#13 (permalink)
The Chibi Kiriyama (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 1,299 Rep Power: 5	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta Personal opinion: Piccolo 'post-Rosat' > Assj Vegeta (1st time through) Piccolo 'post-Rosat' < Assj Vegeta (2nd time through)

04-04-2007	#14 (permalink)
Axle Starr (4) Turtle School Disciple Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Re: Piccolo post-Rosat vs Assj Vegeta Vegeta. I can see Piccolo contending with Semi-Perfect Cell. Vegeta was shown easily defeating Semi-Perfect Cell