Who could raditz beat?

saiyan_army_raditz · 03-08-2007

I know raditz could have beat anybody on earth before he showed up, at least if they fought one vs one, but could he have beat anybody after that? Is there anybody that he could beat one on one after they started training for the rest of the saiyans?

**Zer0** · 03-08-2007

I would have to say Chaozu before Kaiosama's training, maybe a cultivator, and maybe Son Gohan if he doesn't get angry.

Gozar · 03-09-2007

Ya, pretty much what he said. The Saibamen are equal to him in power yet Raditz is smarter. Gohan's PL seemed below 1200 when not angry, and Choutzu seemed plain weak. All in the Saiyan Saga oif course.

saiyan_army_raditz · 03-09-2007

Yea, thats pretty much what I thought, i wasn't sure if there was anybody else though that he could beat, i wasn't sure what krillin's and the other humans power levels were.

Gozar · 03-09-2007

Nah, Krillin killed multiple Saibamen at once. He's much stronger than 1200.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-09-2007

Yeah what he said and what was said above too, Krillin was pretty strong but when Gohan learned to fight better during the Kakarrot VS. Vegeta fight he was far more impressive so as Gohan is concerned it depends on which point and time gohan would fight radditz, however even if radditz started to mess with gohan, gohan would show his true power and mop the floor with him.

Z Warrior · 03-09-2007

Well hopefully Gohan would show his true power. That usually happens when someone he cares for either gets really beat up or dies. I think Raditz could beat the inexperienced Gohan(before Gohan fights Nappa and Vegeta). He would still be a coward. All that Raditz has to do is finish him off quickly, but then again...he's a pure blooded saiyan. He would play around with him first.
As for Chaotzu. He just sucks. Raditz doesn't have to worry much about him. Maybe if Chaotzu did his suicide attack, then Raditz could be defeated.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-10-2007

Yeah thats the only way he could win, but as for Gohan even if it was the inexperienced gohan b/c all raditz would have to do his just keep pushing then Gohan would get pissed off even if nobody would have gotten hurt, thats all it would have to take.
Because I'll tell you I was the exact same way in my first fight but he kept pushing, until he pissed me off then I started to show what I could really do.

Broly · 03-10-2007

If Raditz didn't hold back and aimed to kill Gohan right off the bat, then Gohan would have no chance.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-10-2007

Perhaps but arent we forgetting about his hidden powers. I mean it wouldn't have to take very long for them to awaken, just remember when Piccolo threw Gohan into that mountain side. Now Imagine that Gohan in complete fear for his life thats all it would take, even if raditz was planning on killimg him early.

Broly · 03-10-2007

No, I'm not forgetting about his hidden powers. His hidden powers are only awakened through extreme rage, or a very impending life and death situation, as you had just said. A versus battle with Raditz is a life and death situation, but it's not a very impending life or death situation. Meaning, at that particular moment before the fight, his anger may be swelling but he would not unleash his hidden powers so easily just because he is about to fight Raditz. Gohan saw alot of his friends die in the battle with the Saiyans, and he didn't unleash any power till Piccolo died. Same thing with Freeza, he fought Freeza for a good while before his powers were unchained. The powers are not unleashed blatantly. His power does not come out as easily as you say it does. Only through a very impending life and death situation or through extreme anger do his powers show. Having to chose whether to be smashed upon the rock like jelly or to do something about it is a very impending life and death situation. Having to merely face Raditz in a battle, is not very impending like the above example.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-10-2007

[quote user="Broly: God of Death"] No, I'm not forgetting about his hidden powers. His hidden powers are only awakened through extreme rage, or a very impending life and death situation, as you had just said. A versus battle with Raditz is a life and death situation, but it's not a very impending life or death situation. Meaning, at that particular moment before the fight, his anger may be swelling but he would not unleash his hidden powers so easily just because he is about to fight Raditz. Gohan saw alot of his friends die in the battle with the Saiyans, and he didn't unleash any power till Piccolo died. Same thing with Freeza, he fought Freeza for a good while before his powers were unchained. The powers are not unleashed blatantly. His power does not come out as easily as you say it does. Only through a very impending life and death situation or through extreme anger do his powers show. Having to chose whether to be smashed upon the rock like jelly or to do something about it is a very impending life and death situation. Having to merely face Raditz in a battle, is not very impending like the above example.
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I am not referring to before a battle with Raditz, all it would take is for Raditz to fore his finishing move then have Gohan think about if he dies he will realize he would be all alone, add that fear to the fear of death, then he knowing he needs to stop him at all costs. Thus having your reason to make Gohan snap.

Broly · 03-10-2007

There have been so many times where Gohan had encountered enemies and did not unleash his true power. [at least not right off the bat. But even that would give his enemies enough time to kill him before he did get angry. The problem was, they used that time of oppurtunity to toy around with him instead of killing him instantly] Examples of that would be: The fight with Recoome, The fight with Nappa, The fight with Freeza, The fight with Cooler's henchmen, and even the fight with Cell. Now, he only transformed to SSj2 and got mad because Cell kept pushing him. Cell could have ended it anytime he wanted to. Cooler's henchmen toyed around with Gohan. Recoome toyed around with Gohan. Nappa toyed around with Gohan. And Freeza toyed around with Gohan. All of these enemies could have used their time to totally kill Gohan instead of just toying around with him and having fun. See my point? It's the same thing with Raditz. Raditz' powerlevel is at 1,200, and by the time the Saiyans arrive, Gohans' is at 1,000. All that Raditz would have to do is go all out and think strategically to totally pwn Gohan.

saiyan_army_raditz · 03-10-2007

I got to agree with Broly: God of Death. It appears to me that if raditz would just go for the kill he could beat gohan, and gohan would not release his hidden powers. Especially in a one on one fight, because most of the time that gohan shows his rage is when one of his friends gets hurt/killed. However, knowing raditz, and the fact that he is a saiyan, he probably would toy with gohan until gohan released his hidden powers and thus lose to gohan.

Super Ultimate Gohan · 03-11-2007

True I admit I am wrong on this one ohwell everyone is at onetime or another.

03-08-2007	#1 (permalink)
saiyan_army_raditz (3) Champion of Justice Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Who could raditz beat? I know raditz could have beat anybody on earth before he showed up, at least if they fought one vs one, but could he have beat anybody after that? Is there anybody that he could beat one on one after they started training for the rest of the saiyans? __________________ You know, it's ugly business doing one's duty... but just occasionally it's a real pleasure. Fallen angel did my signature (like a year ago, but still fallen angel did it)

03-08-2007	#2 (permalink)
Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,167 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 141	Re: Who could raditz beat? I would have to say Chaozu before Kaiosama's training, maybe a cultivator, and maybe Son Gohan if he doesn't get angry. __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.

03-09-2007	#3 (permalink)
Gozar (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Posts: 742 Rep Power: 4	Re: Who could raditz beat? Ya, pretty much what he said. The Saibamen are equal to him in power yet Raditz is smarter. Gohan's PL seemed below 1200 when not angry, and Choutzu seemed plain weak. All in the Saiyan Saga oif course. __________________ "You hate the fact that your powerless to stop me, that your completly outmatched, well imagine feeling the way you do now all of the time like the people of this planet do. FOOLS, how do you think my Master Gohan felt when you ganged up on him in the rain and he had no way out. Well now it's your turn, I hope you enjoy it."-Trunks

03-09-2007	#4 (permalink)
saiyan_army_raditz (3) Champion of Justice Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Re: Who could raditz beat? Yea, thats pretty much what I thought, i wasn't sure if there was anybody else though that he could beat, i wasn't sure what krillin's and the other humans power levels were. __________________ You know, it's ugly business doing one's duty... but just occasionally it's a real pleasure. Fallen angel did my signature (like a year ago, but still fallen angel did it)

03-09-2007	#5 (permalink)
Gozar (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Posts: 742 Rep Power: 4	Re: Who could raditz beat? Nah, Krillin killed multiple Saibamen at once. He's much stronger than 1200. __________________ "You hate the fact that your powerless to stop me, that your completly outmatched, well imagine feeling the way you do now all of the time like the people of this planet do. FOOLS, how do you think my Master Gohan felt when you ganged up on him in the rain and he had no way out. Well now it's your turn, I hope you enjoy it."-Trunks

03-09-2007	#6 (permalink)
Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 5	Re: Who could raditz beat? Yeah what he said and what was said above too, Krillin was pretty strong but when Gohan learned to fight better during the Kakarrot VS. Vegeta fight he was far more impressive so as Gohan is concerned it depends on which point and time gohan would fight radditz, however even if radditz started to mess with gohan, gohan would show his true power and mop the floor with him. __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*

03-09-2007	#7 (permalink)
Z Warrior Naruto Ranked (26) Shichibi Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bronx, NY Posts: 5,330 Rep Power: 35	Re: Who could raditz beat? Well hopefully Gohan would show his true power. That usually happens when someone he cares for either gets really beat up or dies. I think Raditz could beat the inexperienced Gohan(before Gohan fights Nappa and Vegeta). He would still be a coward. All that Raditz has to do is finish him off quickly, but then again...he's a pure blooded saiyan. He would play around with him first. As for Chaotzu. He just sucks. Raditz doesn't have to worry much about him. Maybe if Chaotzu did his suicide attack, then Raditz could be defeated. __________________

03-10-2007	#8 (permalink)
Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 5	Re: Who could raditz beat? Yeah thats the only way he could win, but as for Gohan even if it was the inexperienced gohan b/c all raditz would have to do his just keep pushing then Gohan would get pissed off even if nobody would have gotten hurt, thats all it would have to take. *Because I'll tell you I was the exact same way in my first fight but he kept pushing, until he pissed me off then I started to show what I could really do.* __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*

03-10-2007	#9 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Who could raditz beat? If Raditz didn't hold back and aimed to kill Gohan right off the bat, then Gohan would have no chance. __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

03-10-2007	#10 (permalink)
Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 5	Re: Who could raditz beat? Perhaps but arent we forgetting about his hidden powers. I mean it wouldn't have to take very long for them to awaken, just remember when Piccolo threw Gohan into that mountain side. Now Imagine that Gohan in complete fear for his life thats all it would take, even if raditz was planning on killimg him early. __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*

03-10-2007	#11 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Who could raditz beat? No, I'm not forgetting about his hidden powers. His hidden powers are only awakened through extreme rage, or a very impending life and death situation, as you had just said. A versus battle with Raditz is a life and death situation, but it's not a very impending life or death situation. Meaning, at that particular moment before the fight, his anger may be swelling but he would not unleash his hidden powers so easily just because he is about to fight Raditz. Gohan saw alot of his friends die in the battle with the Saiyans, and he didn't unleash any power till Piccolo died. Same thing with Freeza, he fought Freeza for a good while before his powers were unchained. The powers are not unleashed blatantly. His power does not come out as easily as you say it does. Only through a very impending life and death situation or through extreme anger do his powers show. Having to chose whether to be smashed upon the rock like jelly or to do something about it is a very impending life and death situation. Having to merely face Raditz in a battle, is not very impending like the above example. __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

03-10-2007	#12 (permalink)
Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 5	Re: Who could raditz beat? [quote user="Broly: God of Death"] No, I'm not forgetting about his hidden powers. His hidden powers are only awakened through extreme rage, or a very impending life and death situation, as you had just said. A versus battle with Raditz is a life and death situation, but it's not a very impending life or death situation. Meaning, at that particular moment before the fight, his anger may be swelling but he would not unleash his hidden powers so easily just because he is about to fight Raditz. Gohan saw alot of his friends die in the battle with the Saiyans, and he didn't unleash any power till Piccolo died. Same thing with Freeza, he fought Freeza for a good while before his powers were unchained. The powers are not unleashed blatantly. His power does not come out as easily as you say it does. Only through a very impending life and death situation or through extreme anger do his powers show. Having to chose whether to be smashed upon the rock like jelly or to do something about it is a very impending life and death situation. Having to merely face Raditz in a battle, is not very impending like the above example. [/quote] I am not referring to before a battle with Raditz, all it would take is for Raditz to fore his finishing move then have Gohan think about if he dies he will realize he would be all alone, add that fear to the fear of death, then he knowing he needs to stop him at all costs. Thus having your reason to make Gohan snap. __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*

03-10-2007	#13 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Who could raditz beat? There have been so many times where Gohan had encountered enemies and did not unleash his true power. [at least not right off the bat. But even that would give his enemies enough time to kill him before he did get angry. The problem was, they used that time of oppurtunity to toy around with him instead of killing him instantly] Examples of that would be: The fight with Recoome, The fight with Nappa, The fight with Freeza, The fight with Cooler's henchmen, and even the fight with Cell. Now, he only transformed to SSj2 and got mad because Cell kept pushing him. Cell could have ended it anytime he wanted to. Cooler's henchmen toyed around with Gohan. Recoome toyed around with Gohan. Nappa toyed around with Gohan. And Freeza toyed around with Gohan. All of these enemies could have used their time to totally kill Gohan instead of just toying around with him and having fun. See my point? It's the same thing with Raditz. Raditz' powerlevel is at 1,200, and by the time the Saiyans arrive, Gohans' is at 1,000. All that Raditz would have to do is go all out and think strategically to totally pwn Gohan. __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

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saiyan_army_raditz (3) Champion of Justice Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Re: Who could raditz beat? I got to agree with Broly: God of Death. It appears to me that if raditz would just go for the kill he could beat gohan, and gohan would not release his hidden powers. Especially in a one on one fight, because most of the time that gohan shows his rage is when one of his friends gets hurt/killed. However, knowing raditz, and the fact that he is a saiyan, he probably would toy with gohan until gohan released his hidden powers and thus lose to gohan. __________________ You know, it's ugly business doing one's duty... but just occasionally it's a real pleasure. Fallen angel did my signature (like a year ago, but still fallen angel did it)

03-11-2007	#15 (permalink)
Super Ultimate Gohan (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,638 Rep Power: 5	Re: Who could raditz beat? *True I admit I am wrong on this one ohwell everyone is at onetime or another.* __________________ *"Yes it has been too long, now I am back and better than ever!"*