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Old 07-17-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Default Goku (Giji Saiyan) vs Frieza 3rd stage

Goku >>> Frieza. Because any form of Super Saiyan would be over powering for Frieza. Even if you're not a full Super Saiyan. Frieza wouldn't be at his full power which would make him weaker then Goku. Goku went into a full blown tempure tantrum against Lord Slug. And destroyed him. Everyone is aware of what happens when a Saiyan goes into a rage... ( x_x)
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Wait is this 100% Frizea or just Frizea at his final form?

Next how can we tell if goku can hold Giji Sayin for that long? It was like Ko Ken times 100. Then he went back to goku.

Next Lord Slung is weaker than Frizea in his fianl form. So first off we have no info on this Giji Saiyan to long it can last so until we do Frizea wins.
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His 3rd stage, with the long head and the errie presence.

Were not talking directly from the movie, I'm saying the mesurement of power, not how Long he can hold it.

Lord Slug would be almost as strong as Frieza in his 3rd stage. And possibilites are at this leangth. If Goku held his own against Frieza in his final form, then surly he could withstand Frieza in his 3rd form as a Giji. So yes I beleave Goku would win.
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Old 07-21-2006   #4 (permalink)
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The Giji Supa Saiya'jin (False Super Saiyan) form Goku uses in Movie 4 is the halfway point Toei made between the base form and Super Saiyan. Thus, I'm making a logical guess here that FSS taps into about half as much power as SS. Even if it's only slightly stronger than, let's say, the Kaio-ken times 20, that's still more than enough power to have put Freeza after his second transformation through the ringer. More than enough. Heck, enough to kill him with a kiai or basic chi blast if intended to kill.
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That's explains it, finished here, go ahead an' lock it up, getting rid of some useless threads of mine. Lol.

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Actually, I do have a response to this thread- seeing as how I was mistaken in my previous post, I'd like to leave the change up there. Now then, let's say as I surmised that the Super Saiyan Toei described only taps into about half of a Super Saiyan's full multiplier. This visually explains away why this was not SS, which is Toei's error in retrospect for rushing the SS form incomplete to the big screen. Here's the issue though- the Goku who fights Slug is the same one who fought Ginyu. The film came out when Freeza was around his third transformation, so Goku is no place near the power it would take to kill him yet. The movie never says that Freeza is dead, just that Slug is stronger than he is. Now despite the error in the manga, Goku's PL around there is about 85,000. Even with a huge multiplier that is incurred with the SS transformation, such a weak Goku only comes slightly close to Freeza's "3rd State". Remember, one has to fit in the form which is not truly Super Saiyan while remembering that this has to be a Goku who (by Toei's ulterior mistake) also mysteriously only uses the basic Kaio-ken as "full power"- probably a misinterpretation of Goku's display to Ginyu. When one does this, both mathematically and logically Goku still isn't near enough to Freeza in the form this thread describes to beat him.
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Giji Sūpā Saiyajin was actually supose to be the real Sūpā Saiyajin level, it was only in the dubbed (- and subbed version“s after the Frūiza saga) that they said Giji or false Sūpā Saiyajin.

Pikkoro ~ Gokou (-almost equal to Gokou“s base)

Gokou + Pikkoro x kaiO`ken 20 = Gokou kaiO`ken 40

Gokou + Pikkoro kaiO`ken 20 > Giji Sūpā Saiyajin Gokou

So I“d say it“s about an 30x incresse.
Which would be enough to hold agaisnt 50% Fruiza.
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I'd say that Goku, Giji Saiyan would win, for reasons already stated.
However, it unfortunately comes down to pure speculation, as these
movies are all imposible to fit into the timeline, and we don't know
what power he's at (or around) in his base form.

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If you guys made http://myfavoritegames.com/ then why wouldn't you add sumising power-level from the movies you know like guess from the movies timeline.

Anyways, Vegeta's correct we can't mesure movie Power-Levels due to the fact that there is no timeline bases to base it on. Therefore we can't tell where the movie started.
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Gokou + Pikkoro kaiO`ken 20 > Giji Sūpā Saiyajin Gokou
Goku cries out a basic Kaio-ken in all versions of the film. About the only thing that can be concluded is that Slug's high-frequency hearing weakened him or that the power Goku got from Piccolo made him severalfold stronger.
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