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Old 09-03-2006   #76 (permalink)
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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

[quote user="eclipse154"] Mystic Gohan was weaker than fp SSJ3 Goku, who was weaker than fp Vegito.
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fp Vegito > fp SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan
[/quote] Again; there's no "full power" involved, and "Mystic Gohan" could have easily dealt away with the Shin Boo who Goku knew he would be incinerated by in an instant whilst combating even as a SSj 3 with all his sheer, full effort and might. A huge power discrepancy, in saying the least. And whether Ultimate Gohan or Base Vegetto would be tousled is a subject of interpretation, and that's the truth of the matter.
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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

Wow im new here, but why in the world would u have chou gohan fight base vegetto??? Its a rout. FP Chou Gohan was owned by a gotenks buu which is a weaker version of chou buu that was owned by base vegetto(In the anime non canon) although it wasnt non canon. But base vegetto wins with ease
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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

[quote user="LegendarySSj7"]Are you referring to Base Vegetto at full power?

If so, Base Vegetto. Vegetto at his base level would be supernumerary in handling Shin Boo (Gotenks Prime), but would likely have a disadvantage whilst battling Shin Boo (Gohan Prime) by my estimations (if Vegetto's SSj multiplier was about 3x from his base level, anyway). Seeing as how Shin Boo (Gotenks Prime) easily, grossly outclassed Ultimate Gohan, Vegetto in his base would only get the job done with less bustle; which there was none of...
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Wrong it's not 3 it's more then that,the babi-di scene doesn't prove anything because even though Goku went ssj he could still power up more.He didn't went at full power ssj because he didn't wanted to fight Yakon all he wanted was to show him that there are other ways for them to see him.

And the 40 ton feat proves that it's more than 3 times:
Base Goku was trainning with 2 tons and you could see that he had some trouble,then King kai asks Goku if he can handle 10 tons and Goku says "that's impossible" and then king kai says that you can go ssj and Goku says "ok then".
Now the other kai says that he'll make it 40 tons,the kai did that and Goku couldn't move but when he went ssj he was moving with 40 tons like it was nothing.

Now the calculations:Goku can't lift 10 tons so he probably can lift 5 tons,now ssj Goku was moving with 40 tons like it was nothing,that means that the ssj multitplier is more then 12 times from his base form.

That 40 ton feat is a mistake made by Toriyama but it's still good for something.

Now on topic:I say that Full power Vegetto is just a little stronger than Mystic Gohan.
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[quote user="jplaya2023"]Wow im new here, but why in the world would u have chou gohan fight base vegetto??? Its a rout. FP Chou Gohan was owned by a gotenks buu which is a weaker version of chou buu that was owned by base vegetto(In the anime non canon) although it wasnt non canon. But base vegetto wins with ease[/quote]

Don't use the anime for example like this.

So do you have any proof to back up your claim?
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well we never even seen base vegetto fight so one can only guess.

but since potarra fusion is the strongest type of fusion, they would handle chou gohan easily.
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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

umm this dumb look
Super nuu with Gohans Power=Gohan Buu much stronger than Gohan
Vegetto=Kicking Gohans buus ass to the ground
This mean Vegetto would OWN Gohan in a fight....
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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

[quote user="jplaya2023"]well we never even seen base vegetto fight so one can only guess.

but since potarra fusion is the strongest type of fusion, they would handle chou gohan easily.[/quote]
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entire outcome of this could depend entirely upon whether or not you
change the 50x multiplier for SSJ. But that just results in another
question, and another, and another...


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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

I think, and this just my oppinion, but I think Base Vegito is around Buutenks' level or a bit higher.. I find it really hard for two warriors who were way below the power of Super Buu no absorbtion could could get the power to utterly destroy Buuhan. I know the Potora is stronger than regular fusion, but I'd hardly bet it was eons more powerful. I like to think of fusion, the dance, as a Super Saiyan transformation added to the the power of both warriors, for we know that that fusion's power is not the two warriors powers added together. Patora I believe is like the same thing, but more of a Super Saiyan transformation and a half. Then the added boost of the rivalry, is like a Kaio ken power up. Gotenks as a Super Saiyan was getting his butt whooped by Super Buu, and this was the Gotenks that Goku said was stronger than him. SSJ3 Gotenks would have to be many levels above SSJ3 Gotenks and Mystic Gohan who is above SSJ3 Gotenks would have to be way way above SSJ 3 Gotenks. Now if Buutenks is stronger than Mystic Gohan. You can just tell how much above he is over SSJ3 Goku. Then Buuhan comes, and again that great gap between him and SSJ3 Goku grows even larger. So how can a base patora fusion, even if it is slightly stronger easily beat Buuhan, that's just what I think
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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

depends on which fp vegetto you mean....
If you mean fp normal vegetto, Ultimate Gohan would win because of the strength he has
but if it is FP SSJ vegetto, I say Vegetto would win
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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

The answers clearly obvious
Gotenks absorbed buu >>>> Ultimate gohan >>>>SSJ3 Goku
therefore
Ultimate Gohan absorbed Buu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ultimate Gohan
F.P Vegeto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ultimate Gohan absorbed buu
theres your answer. I have proof, as when vegeto is first made, he doesnt exactly fight gohan absorbed buu, but its so weak to him he takes it as a joke. Vegeto would win...


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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

That last part is completely wrong...Vegetto in his base form would be killed by Gohan Buu.

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Didn't Vegeto go Super Saiyan just to show off his power?? If I am correct Vegeto could beat the heck out of Gohan EASILY.
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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

Once again, that's true if you think he has a decreased super saiyan
transformation factor, but being a perfect fusion, I doubt that, on top
of my doubts that anyone does. His base form probably isn't that far
away from Chou Gohan's power, actually, so....I don't know, to be
honest. It's a matter of opinion. Yet to answer you're thoughts, I do
find it doubtful that SSJ Vegetto was over 50x stronger than Gohan Buu
(I assume it would be difficult for him to prevent himself from killing
Gohan Buu at that much difference, with a lot of his more powerful ki
techniques), thus I find it fairly impossible that he is stronger than
him, or even on similar grounds as him, in his base form.

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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

old kaiou stated they wouldnt need to go ssj and he felt they had enough power to kill buu in normal mode. Vegetto went ssj just to show off.
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Default Re: Ultimate Gohan vs. fp Vegetto

[quote user="jplaya2023"]old kaiou stated they wouldnt need to go ssj and he felt they had enough power to kill buu in normal mode. Vegetto went ssj just to show off.[/quote]
In the canon manga the former Kaiô-shin never states this. All that is said is that they should have enough power to beat Boo, but not to fuse as Super Saiyans because it would drain too much power. While I feel Vegetto could beat Shin Boo without the transformation it's never directly stated, just simply hinted.
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