V3g3t0

1.I've proved otherwise

2.This topic is about FP Base Vegeto not FP Super Vegeto

JerrodDRagon

1) Cell never powered up he was at his base form the whole battle, so he's not as strong as a SS2 at his base form!

2) Goku bever defeated rildo??? He lost the battle!!!

3) next ss3 goku as a kid is no where near the strength, plus he could only go SS3 for 5 mins

4) So this is why Badi Vegeta beat Goku with no effort!

5) Adult Goku is stronger, faster, and can contol his SS forms more!

6) if he was 18 times stronger than Gohan he would destory earht just by stepping on it!

7) Goku at SS4 is about 2-2,5 times stronger than Gohan no more!

Now back to the topic

I think Gohan would win but in a real battle Vegetto would go SS1 and kick his ass into the ground!

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Modor

V3g3t0, you haven't proven anything. Even though I too believe it's
pretty obvious that SSJ4 Goku is stronger than all the DBZ characters
except SSJ Vegetto, your theory is flawed. The Oozaru transformation
increases a saiyan's power 10-fold over his base. Right after
Baby gained full control over Vegeta's body, he transformed, got a
Super Saiyan aura around him, and his hair turned white. When he was
battling SSJ4 Goku, it was also white. So, he wasn't in his base form,
but rather, he was in some kind of mutated SSJ form. And what can we deduct from that? That the Oozaru power increase was nowhere near as big as you say it is. I'd say 3-4 times at the very most.

V3g3t0

1.Cell did power up . Did you even see the fight ? Both him and Frieza powered up .

2.I just rewached the episodes . Goku states that general rildo's first form is stronger than Majin Buu . Base Kid Goku is equal with that form . Meaning Base Kid Goku is about SSJ Gotenks's strength . Meaning that even before transforming into SSJ4 Goku was stronger than all the DBZ characters except probably Vegeto .

3.I would ask you to prove it but I know you can't . And Gotenks can sustain SSJ3 for 5 min also .

5.What does this have to do with everything ?

6.I could say the same thing about Goku in the Buu saga beying bilion times stronger than Goku at the beginning of DBZ . but facts are facts .

7.Again I would ask you to prove it but I know you can't .

Show me a statement where it says "over his base" . And even if that's true , that WAS Baby Vegeta's base .

And Kaioushin stated that SSJ4 Goku is the strongest warrior who ever lived .Makin him stronger than even SSJ/2 Vegeto which confirms my theory .

LegendarySSJ7

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JerrodDRagon

1) I meant they werent at 100% power meaning they are weaker, when they powered up it shows white energy not Yellow, plus for Cell to be at 100% he needs lighten around him> So they at abut 50 or less % of there real power.

2) He still did notbeat him meaning at SS1 he was not as strong as buu!

3) Gotenks could go SS3 for longer than 5 mins, was SS3 for 2 episodes in a row meaning at least 30 mins!

6) yes you could but were not talking about SS3 goku are we.

7) since Goku SS3 at full power was not were near Gohan at fp, meaning in GT if SS4 made him 4 times stronger he's about 2.5 times stronger than gohan.

8) Goku SS4 is not the stongest character ever, Vegeta SS4 was about as power same as Nova and syn. And Omega and gogeta SS4 could make SS4 Goku eat dirt so there.

Gohan could beat Vegetto at his base fp, but like I said before Vegetto would go ss1 and beat him.



Note sorry LegendarySSj7 I wrote this at the sametime as you wrote your post!

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V3g3t0

[quote user="JerrodDRagon"] 1) I meant they werent at 100% power meaning they are weaker, when they powered up it shows white energy not Yellow, plus for Cell to be at 100% he needs lighten around him> So they at abut 50 or less % of there real power.
2) He still did notbeat him meaning at SS1 he was not as strong as buu!
3) Gotenks could go SS3 for longer than 5 mins, was SS3 for 2 episodes in a row meaning at least 30 mins!
6) yes you could but were not talking about SS3 goku are we.
7) since Goku SS3 at full power was not were near Gohan at fp, meaning in GT if SS4 made him 4 times stronger he's about 2.5 times stronger than gohan.
8) Goku SS4 is not the stongest character ever, Vegeta SS4 was about as power same as Nova and syn. And Omega and gogeta SS4 could make SS4 Goku eat dirt so there.
Gohan could beat Vegetto at his base fp, but like I said before Vegetto would go ss1 and beat him.

Note sorry LegendarySSj7 I wrote this at the sametime as you wrote your post!
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1.There is nowhere where it states that when Cell is at 100% of his power he has to have electricity around him .
Pictures of SP Cell without lightning : http://www.nfsupreme.com/hostees/dra...h07/350618.gif
http://www.nfsupreme.com/hostees/dra...h07/350619.gif
http://www.nfsupreme.com/hostees/dra...h07/350620.gif
http://www.nfsupreme.com/hostees/dra...h07/350621.gif
http://www.nfsupreme.com/hostees/dra...h07/350626.gif
And many more .
By the way , administrators don't delete those dranet scans because i've put them here only for the pictures .
2.Let me explain how it happened coz it seems you don't know : General Rildo appears in his first form , Goku states that he is stronger than Buu . So General Rildo's first form is stronger than Kid Buu . Base Kid Goku has a slight advantage over General Rildo in his first form , the one that is stronger than Buu . So Base Kid Goku is about as strong as SSJ3 Goku from DBZ . Meaning that Base Kid Goku is about SSJ Gotenks's strength . So SSJ2 Kid Goku is about equal with SSJ3 Gotenks , and also meaning that base SSJ3 Kid Goku is stronger than both Mystic Gohan & SSJ3 Gotenks .
3.Trunks states himself before fighting Super Buu that they can stay SSJ3 for only 5 min . And I can't belive you are using the anime as proof .
6.You started it
7.I'm not about to start a SSJ3 Goku Vs Mystic Gohan from DBZ , but it seems you don't realize the difference in power between DBZ Goku and DBGT Goku . And I've already explained why SSJ4 Goku from GT is about 18 X times stronger than Mystic Gohan .
8.Old Kai made that statement when SSJ4 Goku first appeared . During that time there wasn't any SSJ4 Vegeta , Omega Shenron or SSJ4 Gogeta . So that statements is true thus SSJ4 Goku > SSJ/2 Vegeto
And back on topic : I belive Base Vegeto is about the same strength as Super Buu w/Gohan thus I think he would beat Gohan .

Tyro

[quote user="V3g3t0"]Goku states that he is stronger than Buu . So General Rildo's first form is stronger than Kid Buu . Base Kid Goku has a slight advantage over General Rildo in his first form , the one that is stronger than Buu .[/quote]
Did you read my other post? In the Japanese, Trunks corrected Goku and said he was giving Rilldo way to much credit.

The Mighty Goku

[quote user="Tyro"] [quote user="V3g3t0"]Goku states that he is stronger than Buu . So General Rildo's first form is stronger than Kid Buu . Base Kid Goku has a slight advantage over General Rildo in his first form , the one that is stronger than Buu .[/quote]
Did you read my other post? In the Japanese, Trunks corrected Goku and said he was giving Rilldo way to much credit.
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Tyro is correct. Trunks does infact state that.
Making Rildo weaker than Buu. But not by much.

V3g3t0

[quote user="The Mighty Goku"][quote user="Tyro"] [quote user="V3g3t0"]Goku states that he is stronger than Buu . So General Rildo's first form is stronger than Kid Buu . Base Kid Goku has a slight advantage over General Rildo in his first form , the one that is stronger than Buu .[/quote]
Did you read my other post? In the Japanese, Trunks corrected Goku and said he was giving Rilldo way to much credit.
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Tyro is correct. Trunks does infact state that.
Making Rildo weaker than Buu. But not by much.
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But even so , after transforming into his 2nd form he should be a lot stronger than Majin Buu , and Goku beat him at SSJ forcing him to transform into his 3rd form . So my point still stands .

LegendarySSJ7

It looks as though this is getting to be a tad excessive. And that nobody read my post. Allow me to accentuate:


V3g3t0 (and
this goes for everyone else) - please stop lashing out at each other,
especially with statements like: "I'd ask you, but you can't prove it.
I've proved otherwise." That doesn't go to establish nor vindicate anything.
This versus fight concerns Ultimate Son Gohan vs. Base Vegetto - which
is very much a rudimentary matter of opinion, not SSj 4 Son Goku's
stature of power. Please placidly converse about the said versus fight
before I'm pried to put an end to the affray with the bounds and
reasons of moderation - the reason why I was hired to do such in the
first place.



Again, I implore you to carry on, taking a mature tone. Please do so.




Yes, that also means that this thread doesn't concern General Rildo's insignia of said power. Also meaning destute statements such as "my point remains" will not go anywhere. Now please defer back to the versus fight of Ultimate Gohan and Base Vegetto engaging in a bout.

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V3g3t0, I advise you to not use Dranet fanslations for various reasons. One, it's agaisnt the rules to do so on these forums. Two, no one will take your post seriously since the Dranet fanslations are filled with translation errors. So trying to prove a point by posting such scans (in most cases) prove nothing. And three, I believe it's illegal to do so (which is also another reason I believe it's against the rules to post them).

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LegendarySSJ7

[quote user="Prince Vegeta"]V3g3t0, I advise you to not use Dranet fanslations for various reasons. One, it's agaisnt the rules to do so on these forums. Two, no one will take your post seriously since the Dranet fanslations are filled with translation errors. So trying to prove a point by posting such scans (in most cases) prove nothing. And three, I believe it's illegal to do so (which is also another reason I believe it's against the rules to post them).[/quote]

Even though what Dranet participates in is indeed very illegal, posting a few image scans (even if they are shoddy in resolution) from them doesn't necessitate things to be seen as an issue there.
Anyway, please keep on-topic - Ultimate Gohan vs. "Full Power" Base Vegetto.

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ixidor

Vegetto would win, i think, but there are no way to tell how is the stronger, even them, i think that vegetto should be have a large difference to gohan.

eclipse154

Mystic Gohan was weaker than fp SSJ3 Goku, who was weaker than fp Vegito.
So:
fp Vegito > fp SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan