DBAF Killer

Like it or not, Majin Uub is far, far stronger than Mystic Gohan. If you really believe that Mystic Gohan is stronger Majin Uub, then you're kidding yourself. Uub was stronger than Mystic Gohan even before Goku train him. Goku himself would of surpass Majin Buu(overall)'s power while he was training for those 10 years after Kid Buu's death just like he surpass Cell(overall)'s power over the 7 years. With Goku training him, Uub must of also surpass Majin Buu(overall)'s power. Now merge Fat Buu with him, Majin Uub's power would be far, far greater than Mystic Gohan.

Tyro

I'll try to make this as simple as possible as to show you why Oobo isn't as powerful as you say.

Oob (End of Z before training) <<< Chibi Boo

Oob (Begining of GT) <<< Chibi Boo

This is because Goku said Oob still had room to improve so he can't be at his full power which, if he was at his full power, he would be equal to Chibi Boo as he is his reincarnation.

Oob (Going to kill Babi) > Oob (Begining of GT)

He said to Goku that he would train, therefore, he has become a bit stronger.So at this point:

Oob << Chibi Boo

We can say this because if Oob was still training, he hasn't reached his full power of being equal to Kid Buu.

Mr. Boo (In GT) << Mr. Boo (In Z)

This is because he hasn't had a decent fight in 20 years and it is only natural that his power would lessen from no training or fighting. So, here it is thus far.

Oob << Chibi Boo, Mr. Boo << Chibi Boo.

Now Oob fuses with Mr. Boo to become, Oobo. Now with Mr. Boo's power addition, this should put him over Chibi Boo.

Oobo >> Chibi Boo

But, since they both weren't at their max potential at the time, Oobo has an extreme lack in power than if they were. So, this would put them between Majin Boo and Shin Boo.

Shin Boo >>> Oobo > or = Majin Boo.

I put him either > or = Majin Boo because Majin Boo surpassed Chibi Boo in power by quite a lot.

And since Ultimate Gohan in far greater than Shin Boo (who is far more powerful than Majin Boo), he is clearly the victor in this fight.

JerrodDRagon

^ I agree with U and Also HUMANS (thats what ubb is) are not like syains and do not gain power as fast thats why ubb did not improve that greaty after goku's training.

Also even if Ubb trained after goku left it was less than 6 months of training and when your as strong as ubb how can you train by yourself on Earth? He gained almost no strenght/power from that 6 months.

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DBAF Killer

Well Uub is not like any human. He's the reincarnation of Kid Buu, meaning he has immense power way beyond human standards even for Kuririn and Tien. And once he became Majin Uub, his power became far greater than before. Not just Majin Uub, but Goku and Vegeta in GT has greatly surpass themselves, their friends and enemies of DBZ. Mystic Gohan beating Majin Uub is like saying that SS2 Gohan could beat Fat Buu. There's no way Mystic Gohan can beat Majin Uub.

Sephiroth

Your not looking at the simple facts Oob can't beat Gohan because he is a reincarnated Kid Boo. The Strongest Oob could Ever be is equal to Kid Boo. And the merger between himself and Mr. Boo could only bring him to Super Boo. Those are the Facts and even if Oob trains for 50 years it still won't change that.

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JerrodDRagon

^ yeah, plus he is also a human and humans bodies have limites until they die.

The only reason Ubb looks stronger than Gohan in GT is becuase Toei made some MAJOR plot holes and also wanted ubb to get some action in GT.

But Gohan is stronger.

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Tyro

Well, sometimes they get a lot stronger like they did when they trained with Kami-sama.

And, I feel that after 10 years and six months of training, I would move him up a little and only use two 'greater than' signs instead of three. I figured that little bit of training should puch him a little. And I primarily used two greater than signs to show that Oob was still far behind Chibi Boo but closer than he was at the begining of Z.

The Chibi Kiriyama

Oob is inhuman in soul only. His body does not regenerate, as he is as human as Kuririn, Tenshinhan and the rest. To believe that Oob was as strong or stronger than Chibi Boo in the beginning of GT is foolhardy, as you are basically saying that Goku is as strong or stronger than his SS Level 3 form in Z in his base form in GT.

He surpassed Goku at SS Level 3, that's for sure. But SS Level 3 is never shown or stated to be a massive improvement in it's GT incarnation than it was in Z. I'll show a chart just to get the point accross:

SS Level 3 Goku (Z) > Chibi Boo

Boo was weaker in potency with his hits and Goku would have won had he had the chi to maintain his form

Goku (GT) > Goku (Z)

Goku is definitely stronger through training in GT, but...

Goku (GT) < Chibi Boo

...still not nearly as strong as Chibi Boo in his normal form.

Goku (GT) >/= Oob (GT)

He is stronger than or equal to Oob...

SS Level 3 Goku (GT) > Oob (GT)

...but Oob is no place near SS Level 3 Goku' power. So, we conclude:

Oob (GT) < Chibi Boo

If he was on-par with a Goku who was receiving no zenkais post-Cell Saga, then SS Level 3 would demolish him in Goku's Z or GT version of it.

Fused Oob >/= SS Level 3 Goku (GT)

Goku was unable to keep his form up, and may have faired equally or worse than the fused Oob had he been able to against the might of Bebi-Vegeta (transformed).

Fused Oob > SS Level 3 Goku (Z)

If Goku is stronger in GT than in Z and had the advantage Boo and Oob surpasses him, then his Z incarnation is also surpassed.

Fused Oob =/< Bebi-Vegeta (transformed)

Even with his best efforts he could not beat him in a normal fashion, and had to resort to attacks from within.

Thus, what have we learned? Oob in GT is no place near the person closest to Chibi Boo at the beginning. He then goes on to surpass said person by only a meager amount only to get the same treatment in his fight with Bebi-Vegeta. Now, if the fused Oob is only slightly stronger than SS Level 3 Goku and SS Level 3 is close to it's GT incarnation now that Goku is not shown to grow in strength outside of the Super Saiyan transformation we have one more fact to dole out: Goku was afraid of fighting Boo even with everything he had.

SS Level 3 Goku (Z) < "Super" Boo

Gohan came before in his counterattack and demolished Boo.

"Mystic" Gohan > "Super" Boo

So, if Gohan is stronger than a person Goku was afraid to fight without fusion....

"Mystic" Gohan > SS Level 3 Goku (Z)

Now, for the conclusion: If Gohan is much stronger than a person Goku's Z incarnation was afraid to fight and Goku's power had not substantially increased due to a lack of zenkais outside of a new SS transformation, then the final point would be this:

"Mystic" Gohan > Fused Oob

Take the canon statements in GT, take the canon statements in Z, combine them and feel free to tell us all what changes this drastically.

Oob got stronger through permanent fusion, Goku and Vegeta got stronger through the SS4 transformation, and everyone else was more or less the same in power as shown on DBZ. Training becomes something only useful for times when the user has a lot of latent potential, which most of the powerhouse characters in DBGT are in short supply of based on the proff as shown both in the DBZ manga and GT itself. The only time they get drastically stronger is A) fusion, B) supercharges and C) whatever the heck TOEI expects the viewer to believe Goku did to make himself stronger than his SS4 forms on two occasions.

That's because you consider SS Level 3 Goku to be stronger than both Gohan and "Super" Boo, which is false. When you realize both of the aforementioned were stronger than him, it becomes less unrealistic.

There is. By quite the wide margin. If you want to refute this feel free to, but do it with some proof.

mAIOR

In my opinion, Goku in his kid form lost some power simply because of
size... I mean it's te most basic physics that a larger body (from the
same material) can accumulate more energy also, the inability of Goku
in his kid base form to perform a teleport gives credit to this.

Now, Majin Uub should be equal (or even a bit stronger because I
believe that Shibi Buu>>evil Buu why else would Buu choose to
devolute to his base form instead of the grey evil one??) than Super
Buu. However, not near the power of Mystic gohan... A good estimate of
Gohan power in his mystical form is 250X10^9... if he hasn't done any
training at all in 10 years (wich I think it's impossible) maybe it
lowered to 230~240Teras...still Majin Uub would be tops 180~190T so I
say Gohan would emerge victor with little dificulty... Also, Goku in
his kid form with tail managed to hold his SSJ3 form pretty well... I
believe that with his tail in kid form he should be equal in terms of
power to his equivalent adult form...

All this is based in educated guesses (as all the rest) just thought it might be interesting...



Cheers..

JerrodDRagon

^Goku lost at least half of his power. You can see how weak he is because he losses to Baby Vegeta so fast plus his kid body has limites like only going SS3 for 10 min's.

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ixidor

Majin uub, by far. He is much stronger then chou gohan

Sephiroth

Have you read any of the posts in this thred, if you did you would understand that it is impossible for Majin Oob to be anywhere close to Ultimate Gohan in strength.

Majin Oob is reincarnated from Kid Boo, this means that Kid Boo would be Oob's max potential, Goku stated that Oob had not yet finished training meaning Oob was not yet as strong as Kid Boo. Kid Boo>>Oob

Mr. Boo who Oob merges with has done no training in 20 years so he would have been weaker then he was in Dragonball Z. Mr. Boo (Z)>>Mr. Boo (GT)

Finaly because Kid Boo=Evil Boo when Oob merges with Mr. Boo it would be the same type of fusion as when Evil Boo ate Mr. Boo, this means that the merger would bring him to Super Boo's strength if both Oob was at his max potential and Mr. Boo was as strong as he was in Dragonball Z, So because he is even weaker then Super Boo, Ultimate Gohan>>>>>>>>>>>>>Majin Oob.

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^I bet kid buu would win against Majin Ubb becuase of the fact that kid buu can not be beat to death and kid buu can mutple him self and absorb people.

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The Chibi Kiriyama

Not exactly. One has to remember that Bebi-Vegeta (transformed) is much stronger than SS Bebi-Vegeta, so I honestly believe that Bebi-Vegeta held the edge. And the other thing is that the only time we see him weak is when he can no longer sustain the form because of his child-body's limitations; the amount of chi he had wasn't changed, just that he had problems maintaining his 'full power' (at the time, SS Level 3).

As I've said, if Goku is stronger in GT than he would be stronger in SS Level 3 than his Z incarnation. Going through all the points I gave, it leaves us to conclude that Majin Boo is marginally above SS Level 3 Goku in GT. Now then, with this in mind, remember that Goku was beating Boo and confident that the Genki Dama wouldn't be needed. So...where does that put the fused Oob?

Carazo

In the Freeza Saga, SSJ Goku and Frieza look to be invincible, and in the Android Saga Vegeta, Trunks, Piccolo and Goku himself could beat those two in a matter of seconds. The same happens over and over again.

GT takes place 20 years after the Buu Saga, so Goku SSJ3 is probably a multiple times stronger than what he was in the Buu-Saga.

Toei Animation did also add some lines under Toriyama Advive to the Anime in which they say that Goku and Vegeta are the strongest warriors of the universe, this is ten years after the Buu Saga, and it makes sense.