Which boost is the highest?

SSJ4 Vegito · 09-21-2008

Okay which gap do you think is the biggest between SSJ Transformations? By that I mean:

Which is the biggest boost:

1. The boost from Base to SSJ
2. The Boost from SSJ to SSJ2
3. The boost from SSJ2 to SSJ3

Or do you think they're equal?

BTW Don't feel obligated to show numbers.

Hero · 09-21-2008

Base to SSJ.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 09-21-2008

Base to SSj1 - 50x, inaugurally, to gloss over the question. But then as one seeks to rid themselves of the restless feeling, so as to make the transformation less stressful while still not stifling ability (MSSj), the multiplier ebbs dramatically in my view.

SSj1 (or, rather, MSSj) to SSj2 - 4x-10x. Enough that the chaotic and destructive nature of SSj2 could be obvious (as it is with SSj2 Gohan, SSj2 Complete Cell, SSj2 Vegeta, and SSj2 Goku), but enough that tells us that even with the now and especially later marginal augmentation of MSSj, that SSj2 is another way for the body to make an attempt at finding a way to release a need for power output (as well as a response to threats).

SSj2 to SSj3 - 3x-5x. Enough that shows that in the long term, SSj3 is useless for fighting unless under deep rein and mastered (as it relates to Goku and Boo's fight, though we never see the said mastery in the series), and has akin drawbacks to that of SSj Type 3.

SRP76 · 09-21-2008

All equal for me. "Super Saiyan beyond Super Saiyan". That means going through the transformation while already transformed. Not "Super Saiyan almost, but not quite, maybe only half beyond Super Saiyan". It's the same transformation, it should be the same increase.

WombatKombat · 09-21-2008

Agree with SRP on this one, I always found it rediculous that the SSJ multipler decreases upon mastery and evolution of it's stages. If anything, it should increase with each form, but I always have it equal for each form, 50X for each transformation.

Hero · 09-21-2008

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Originally Posted by WombatKombat

Agree with SRP on this one, I always found it rediculous that the SSJ multipler decreases upon mastery and evolution of it's stages. If anything, it should increase with each form, but I always have it equal for each form, 50X for each transformation.

That kinda screws the Buu arc up though.

WombatKombat · 09-21-2008

Well, fuck the Buu Arc, I say! Lol.

Imihsukin · 09-22-2008

I would argue that later in the series they all seemed to decrease do to the base stats of characters going up so much.

Originally SS1 had to be the biggest increase, but then after a period of time Goku and Gohan had mastered it so well that it became a normality.

Even later then that, you had Gohan go through the sword training where he became Mystic Gohan and he didn't even rely on SS at all.

Dupe of USSJed · 09-22-2008

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Even later then that, you had Gohan go through the sword training where he became Mystic Gohan and he didn't even rely on SS at all.

Possibly using the sword in SSJ would be so easy it would provide no increase?

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That kinda screws the Buu arc up though.

How so?

Imihsukin · 09-22-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

Possibly using the sword in SSJ would be so easy it would provide no increase?

I don't understand your question exactly?

Dupe of USSJed · 09-22-2008

Whilst using the heavy sword in SSJ, you are so amazingly strong that you could wield it with 1 finger, thus the weight training boost of the sword would not apply.

Chariking · 09-22-2008

I always thought it was:

Base to SSJ: 50x
SSJ to SSJ2: 10x
SSJ2 to SSJ3: 10x

Vegeta · 09-22-2008

Base to SSj -- 50x
SSj to SSj2 -- 100x
SSj2 to SSj3 -- 200x

Hero · 09-22-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

How so?

Because then SSJ3 Gotenks is 2,500x stronger than SSJ Gotenks, which is obviously impossible.

Dupe of USSJed · 09-22-2008

Forgive me for bringing Tien into this, but you say the Kikoho is x10,000 stronger than Tien, and also you have SSJ3 at a x3,000 multiplier or some shit. Why is that suddenly impossible?

09-21-2008	#1 (permalink)
SSJ4 Vegito (25) Kami of Earth Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,433 Rep Power: 134	Which boost is the highest? Okay which gap do you think is the biggest between SSJ Transformations? By that I mean: Which is the biggest boost: 1. The boost from Base to SSJ 2. The Boost from SSJ to SSJ2 3. The boost from SSJ2 to SSJ3 Or do you think they're equal? BTW Don't feel obligated to show numbers. __________________ 90% of DragonBall fans detest DragonBall GT If you're one of the 10% of fans who actually like GT, post this in your signature. "If everything God did made sense he wouldn't be 'God" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4afhQK_sXgQ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAi7ZDY2q4s- Dead sea scrolls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU_rTX23V7Q for fellow Christians

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Hero (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 3,166 Rep Power: 135	Re: Which boost is the highest? Base to SSJ. __________________ Top 5 Manga: 1. Dragon Ball 2. One Piece 3. Hunter x Hunter 4. Vagabond 5. Hikaru No Go Dragon Ball/Z Power Levels

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LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,736 Rep Power: 48	Re: Which boost is the highest? Base to SSj1 - 50x, inaugurally, to gloss over the question. But then as one seeks to rid themselves of the restless feeling, so as to make the transformation less stressful while still not stifling ability (MSSj), the multiplier ebbs dramatically in my view. SSj1 (or, rather, MSSj) to SSj2 - 4x-10x. Enough that the chaotic and destructive nature of SSj2 could be obvious (as it is with SSj2 Gohan, SSj2 Complete Cell, SSj2 Vegeta, and SSj2 Goku), but enough that tells us that even with the now and especially later marginal augmentation of MSSj, that SSj2 is another way for the body to make an attempt at finding a way to release a need for power output (as well as a response to threats). SSj2 to SSj3 - 3x-5x. Enough that shows that in the long term, SSj3 is useless for fighting unless under deep rein and mastered (as it relates to Goku and Boo's fight, though we never see the said mastery in the series), and has akin drawbacks to that of SSj Type 3. __________________

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SRP76 (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,341 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 39	Re: Which boost is the highest? All equal for me. "Super Saiyan beyond Super Saiyan". That means going through the transformation while already transformed. Not "Super Saiyan almost, but not quite, maybe only half beyond Super Saiyan". It's the same transformation, it should be the same increase.

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WombatKombat (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baile Atha Cliath, Eire Posts: 1,079 Rep Power: 63	Re: Which boost is the highest? Agree with SRP on this one, I always found it rediculous that the SSJ multipler decreases upon mastery and evolution of it's stages. If anything, it should increase with each form, but I always have it equal for each form, 50X for each transformation. __________________ 'Cause Alakazam and Sableye rock your shit.

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WombatKombat (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baile Atha Cliath, Eire Posts: 1,079 Rep Power: 63	Re: Which boost is the highest? Well, fuck the Buu Arc, I say! Lol. __________________ 'Cause Alakazam and Sableye rock your shit.

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Imihsukin (10) Saiyan Elite Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 129 Rep Power: 5	Re: Which boost is the highest? I would argue that later in the series they all seemed to decrease do to the base stats of characters going up so much. Originally SS1 had to be the biggest increase, but then after a period of time Goku and Gohan had mastered it so well that it became a normality. Even later then that, you had Gohan go through the sword training where he became Mystic Gohan and he didn't even rely on SS at all. __________________

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,539 Rep Power: 195	Re: Which boost is the highest? Whilst using the heavy sword in SSJ, you are so amazingly strong that you could wield it with 1 finger, thus the weight training boost of the sword would not apply. __________________ Is Tien fucking strong? Damn right he is. http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/ani...hs-humans.html SSJ3 Gotenks kicks ass btw.

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Chariking (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Behind you with a knife Posts: 788 Rep Power: 7	Re: Which boost is the highest? I always thought it was: Base to SSJ: 50x SSJ to SSJ2: 10x SSJ2 to SSJ3: 10x __________________

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Vegeta (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Vegeta 2.0 Posts: 2,199 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 154	Re: Which boost is the highest? Base to SSj -- 50x SSj to SSj2 -- 100x SSj2 to SSj3 -- 200x __________________ Last edited by Vegeta; 09-22-2008 at 07:21 AM.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,539 Rep Power: 195	Re: Which boost is the highest? Forgive me for bringing Tien into this, but you say the Kikoho is x10,000 stronger than Tien, and also you have SSJ3 at a x3,000 multiplier or some shit. Why is that suddenly impossible? __________________ Is Tien fucking strong? Damn right he is. http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/ani...hs-humans.html SSJ3 Gotenks kicks ass btw.