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Old 09-20-2008   #61 (permalink)
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Default Re: Humans Post King Kai

I mean Yamcha(pre-trunks saga) in the 1 year gap before Frieza came.
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No, he didn't train. I doubt anyone did.
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After King Kai:

If we go by the increase they got in the Saiyan saga+add the gravity+the weighted clothing this is the level they would have if not stronger

Tien:120,000
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No, he didn't train. I doubt anyone did.
Tien and Chaoz possibly did, has they arrived with some cloths, maybe weighted or whatever.
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If we go by the increase they got in the Saiyan saga+add the gravity+the weighted clothing this is the level they would have if not stronger

Tien:120,000
Chaotzu:80,000
They weren't shown with any weights on Kaio's at all. Piccolo was.
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So? That's probably just how they dress in the mountains.
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Lol, another gem from remix. According to Hero, partner training can easily be x12 per year. I think they would definitely get the full x12. So lets just say 18k and 15k and 12k were the levels they would be at just from King Kai, they trained for most of a year, so heres my estimate

Tien: 18,000x4= 72,000 (Could just be x3 for 51,000)
Yamcha: 15,000x3=45,000
Chaotzu: 12,000x3=36,000

Not that I actually believe these specific numbers, but I think if we use heros crazy partner training multipliers they could be well over the 30,000 15,000 10,000 I gave them before.

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Just wanted to point out all Piccolo did was meditate at x10 gravity not actually train with KK. I like pointing that out whenever I see it.
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It was regular clothes. They live in the mountains, so it's bound to be cold.
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It could be coats then?
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So they were wearing different clothing in the mountains? I didn't know that, please tell me what chapter I can find that in.
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Lol, another gem from remix. According to Hero, partner training can easily be x12 per year. I think they would definitely get the full x12. So lets just say 18k and 15k and 12k were the levels they would be at just from King Kai, they trained for most of a year, so heres my estimate

Tien: 18,000x4= 72,000 (Could just be x3 for 51,000)
Yamcha: 15,000x3=45,000
Chaotzu: 12,000x3=36,000

Not that I actually believe these specific numbers, but I think if we use heros crazy partner training multipliers they could be well over the 30,000 15,000 10,000 I gave them before.

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Why would Tien get a 4x increase if he was training with someone so much weaker than him?

And why is Yamcha getting a partner training increase?
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Why would Tien get a 4x increase if he was training with someone so much weaker than him?

And why is Yamcha getting a partner training increase?


How come Goku increased so much by training with two weakling compared to him in the Android saga.......
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Because they weren't that weak compared to his base form. Piccolo was even much stronger than his base form after a little bit of training.
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Tien trained with Yamcha and Chaotzu. First he trained on equal terms with Yamcha, which got them both a x3. I just gave him an extra x1 for any training he managed to get done with Chaotzu once he got him up to speed. Either that, or Chaotzu Yamcha and Tien trained together and then both Chaotzu and Tien need a x4-x5

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I think Goku did not increase much at all.

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I equate that argument to saying Tien lowered his PL/weighted himself etc to trian with Chaotzu, and so gets a x10 multiplier.
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Because they weren't that weak compared to his base form. Piccolo was even much stronger than his base form after a little bit of training.

Goku trained in SSJ with them not in base

@Usjed:Yep he did it was stated when he transformed against 19 they couldnt belive how strong his Chi is
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