Remixxx

Krillin was stronger then Chaotzu in the saiyan saga...i think that after king kai Chaotzu could be stronger then Krillin

Krillin was also never stated to be stronger then Chaotzu after the saiyan saga

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Why? Didn't you say you thought Krillin was close to 100,000 because of Guru's magic before? How is Chaittzu even close to that?

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Remixxx

I never said that he was i said that it was a posibility..

.....im guessing that Chaotzu could be stronger then Krillin after king kai because of what was showed how much they increased in the saiyan saga from training.....

To be honest i dont think that he is stronger then Krillin but close...At the end of Z if he kept on training with Tien then he could be

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Neither of them had any reason to train after Cell.

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Even hero agrees that if Tien did in fact train with Chaotzu, then he would exceed 1,000,000

Heres some numbers I came up with

Tien: 18,000
Chaotzu: 7500

Numbers:
x1.6 Hard Training
x1.18 Moderate Training
x1.07 Easy Training
Partner Trainings
With stronger partner: Up to x20 higher
With same strength partner: Up to 12x higher

Year One-Pre Trunks Saga
Worried about Vegeta, Tien and Chaotzu train at a moderate pace.

Tien: 18,000 x1.18 21,240
Chaotzu: 7500 x2.5 18,750

Year Two-Android Training
Tien and Chaotzu train like fucking bitches

Tien: 21,240 x5 106,200
Chaotzu:18,750 x5 93,720

Year Three-Android Training
Tien and Chaotzu train like fucking bitches

Tien: 106,200 x5 531,000
Chaotzu:93,720 x5 468,600

Which indeed gets them to 1/2 mil by the Android Saga. Then theres the major assumption as to if he trained after the Cell Games or not...

This list was made using Hero's multipliers and post King Kai powerlevels. If Tien and Chaotzu were 30k and 10k post KK, Tien is no less than 885,000 by the Android Saga.

NOTE: These are also very low partner training multipliers, according to hero it could be much higher, IE x12 I just used x5 because Tien's an inferior human.


So yeah, opinions please. And BTW, its funny noone mentions Chaotzu>Yamcha, and anyway Krillin with Heros levels would be 409,600 maximum, quite possibly much lower. So with these levels Chaotzu>Krillin.

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According to my theory Tien is under 100,000... my theory is just that you increase 1,600 per year if you do hard training, moderate training is around 1,000, and easy training is around 500 or less, so yeah...

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Jed that's all fine and dandy, but why would Chaozu not be caught up to Tien after King Kai?

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As hero said in the other thread... why didn't Tien go from 250 to 8250 by the Raditz saga?

Did you forget a word, I can't tell what your asking

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You said that Chaozu when partner training with Tien would close the gap and then they could train evenly. My question is why the gap wouldn't already be closed after the King Kai training if this is true.

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Vicdmx

Umm.. maybe it does not make sense, maybe in DB it has less of an increase ... remember that Krillin went from 206 to around 1,500 training with Kami, maybe self-training is less... but Tien trains with Chaoz, so he gets a possibly higher increase, even though Chaoz is way weaker.

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@Hero

Thats a marvelous idea. I just placed Tien at a reasonable number and Chaotzu at alower number along the same ratio as other lists. However, I think Tien would have trained with Yamcha, who equal training partner or not would probably have had more power than Chaotzu at any given time during that training, if not for the mere reason that he started higher.

So perhaps Tien trained with Yamcha and with Chaotzu seperately, because then that would explain why Tien is the highest, he trained twice as much.

And lol, I found a plothole. Tien wears weighted clothing post Kami's, Goku does as well. When Goku died, he had no weights, then suddenly they are back. Why did Tiens weights not appear on him when he died?

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So you think he trained with Yamcha and just left Chaozu to train by himself in the corner? And even so, he had 130 days to get Chaozu up to his level, you don't think that's enough?

Tien never wore weighted clothing btw.

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Vicdmx

Who here thinks that Yamcha after King Kai´s actually did any kind of training?

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He trained for the androids like everyone else.

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Yaijirobe wore weights, and Tien had a weird suit at Kami's.

Nope. Read it again, let me show you an example.

DAILY TRAINING

9 am-wake up
9-3 Train with Chaotzu
3-6 Train with Yamcha
6pm sleep

In that way, Tien trains with Chaotzu for 6 hours, and Yamcha for 6 hours, therefore Tien got 12 hours while each of them only got 6. Something like that.

Edit: Yamcha trained for the Androids, but possibly it was lazy or moderate training. Krillin trained 'at his own pace' with M Roshi, so I don't see why its so unbelievable for Chaotzu who possibly trained hard to overtake him btw.

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