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Old 09-20-2008   #16 (permalink)
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Just post the damn number.

If I tell you you would purposely rig it. In your opinion where is Chaozu?
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Based on Tien always wanting to or actually not bringing him to a battle. What do you have to say he's efficient?
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EV could you post the quote where Tien explains why he left Chaozu behind in the Android Saga for Jed? I can't find my Volume 12 lol.
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Tien: I left Chaozu behind. We both trained...but frankly, he wouldn't be able to keep up with this battle.

Goku: Yeah, it's better that way.

Both of them basically are admitting how insignifiant he is in my opinion.
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When have you ever seen Choutzu actually fight? Once, during the tournament, but after Krillin started owning him, he had to resort to psychic powers to win, yet he still lost. And keep in mind this was after he was training with Tien under Master Crane.

Therefore, I think Choutzu's genes or something just make him naturally weaker than others and he relies on special abilities rather than pure physical fighting, which is why Toriyama almost never shows him in combat.
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I like those power levels, they are decent.
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Ok, no 'this topic has been done' or anything, because I'm certain it has. I just want a quick idea of the powerlevels of Tien, Yamcha, and Chaotzu post King Kai's training.

And ideally and explanation why. Reps to any particularily in depth explanations.

Tien: 30,000
Yamcha: 20,000
Chaotzu: 10,000

How does that sound?

I think that they shoudl all be higher since Training together was shown to be prety effective when they trained for the Saiyans

Choatzu is really low he benefited by training with Tien

Tien:Atleast 100,000
Yamcha:70 thousands
Chotzu:66 thousands
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Thatīs too high, sounds fanboyish.
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Nope its not ...they train at 10 x gravity and they trained together just like on kamis where they increased 7x more then Goku in less then a year
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Just post the damn number.

If I tell you you would purposely rig it. In your opinion where is Chaozu?
Well, now that you mention it, based on Tien+Chaotzu/KamixYaijirobes increase with Korin over 21 years... I say he's 55 million for the battle during the Saiyans.

Now seriously, enough with the bullshit accusations there hero. I already told you I have no idea what Chaotzu's PL is at that point. Maybe I can tell you after I finish reading DB.

Edit: Just got Chibi to translate it, its "I've left Chaozu behind. He trained, but he clearly can't keep up with this battle."

My interpretation: That unlike Yamcha(And Krillin?), Tien in his infinite wisdom(let us bow down and worship him) knew that Chaotzu is too weak for the fight. End Result: Chaotzu could be at the level of Yamcha or Krillin, but just doesn't kid himself about how useless he really is. That combined with Tien telling him to stay behind and not die, means he stayed behind whilst Yamcha and Krillin went to the battle.

So, how does that sound?
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Goku would have no reason to confirm that then. He would've either told Tien he should've brought Chaozu, or told Yamcha or Krillin not to fight.
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He said those with confidence should come. If Yamcha and Krillin happen to be confident, who's he to stop them?
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When did Tien ever say Chaozu wasn't confident?

As far as I'm concerned, he took off without telling him.
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We have no way of knowing. Perhaps Chaotzu was indeed confident, but Tien left without him and he forgot how to sense ki? The way I see it, Tien is the one responsible for Chaotzu not going, or Chaotzu is not confident.
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Tien said that HE left him behind, not Chaozu didn't wanna come.
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