Brian Drummond versus Chris Sabat - Page 2

Madness · 09-17-2008

I don't agree when people say that BD shows Vegeta's eviler side. It's simply through watching the Ocean dubs first and the Funi ones in the later series.

As for emotionless, whut? Did you even watch CS's half-arsed screaming in the Namek clip?

Vegeta · 09-17-2008

That what you're looking for, Madness?

As for the OT, I prefer Drummond in the beginning until the Frieza or Android Sagas, then I prefer Sabat.

Dupe of USSJed · 09-18-2008

Wow

Fucking amazing.

Hero · 09-18-2008

Lol. "That thing's for real!"

**LegendarySSJ7** · 09-18-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

And who's Ryo Horikawa?

Vegeta's Seiyuu... or Vegeta's Japanese voice actor.

I personally feel Drummond was good in that he captured a more brilliant, laid back (not necessarily indolent), but sinister and menacing quality in tone that Vegeta's character initially had - some people - even if eventually good or inherently good - can and might just treat the world like a game when they come upon the notion that there's a certain freedom about just doing that. Hence why Vegeta kills Nappa and decides to go against Freeza... that, and Vegeta's callous nature. Drummond captures all of that well, as does Ryo.

But again, Sabat is just too strained for my tastes. His building, guttural yells and grunts come to mind - neither of which are good in quality. With a more natural tone, he works better (hence why when he voices other characters with more placid tones, generally, like Piccolo, new depths of tone can be heard, nigh in an impalpable way... at least, in my ears).

Dupe of USSJed · 09-18-2008

I got 10x the emotion from Sabats final explosion than any of the others.

Super Kaioken · 09-18-2008

Yes Sabat really captured vegeta's spirit in that scene

Cableguy15 · 09-18-2008

YouTube - DBZ Goku vs Vegeta Ocean pt 2 Drummond owns Sabat in the scream department, no doubt.

Chris Sabat sounds awful in the remastered version, but, like everyone keeps saying, he's good later on, especially in the Cell saga.

Dupe of USSJed · 09-18-2008

Why even remaster it then? They should just combine the best actors and do it that way. EG, Funi Roshi>>>>>>>>>>>Ocean Roshi so they use him. Actually, aside from early Vegeta I think Funi>Ocean in most of the voices I've heard. Its probably because I grew up with Funi.

Mr-Blonde_139 · 09-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Cableguy15

Chris Sabat sounds awful in the remastered version, but, like everyone keeps saying, he's good later on, especially in the Cell saga.

It's all about who you heard first. I heard redub Sabat first in the Saiyan arc, so Drummond just sounds awful to me.

I agree that Horikawa is the best Vegeta, though... he captures all the character's aspects (arrogant, mysterious, vicious, full of subtle malice), but he is also the ONLY ONE to make Vegeta actually sound like a prince.

If it's English, it's gotta be redub Sabat for me or nothing.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 09-20-2008

Here's agreeance with Madness. It depends upon which you saw inaugurally, and though the voice acting can dramatically personify a character, what matters more or less is the character itself and less the voice on many accounts. The range and fountain of emotion that goes into the voice (and how it intertwines with the character) is critical - but there tends to be more tiffing over the voice actors than the character.

Dupe of USSJed · 09-20-2008

CS sounds absolutely ridiculous in the Saiyan Saga... and dammit, if Goku didn't sound so crap in the japanese one I'd watch it just for Vegeta. The JVA for Vegeta is indeed marvelous.

Hero · 09-20-2008

I saw CS first and I still like Drummond more =/.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 09-21-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

CS sounds absolutely ridiculous in the Saiyan Saga... and dammit, if Goku didn't sound so crap in the japanese one I'd watch it just for Vegeta. The JVA for Vegeta is indeed marvelous.

Masoka Nozawa did have a rather high pitch, but it was used only to preserve and convey the child-like innocence Goku had in early Dragonball. In any case, Masoka has a certain intensity to her voice that completely makes up for that in my eyes. If anything else, though, I think that, despite Schemmel's good voice acting (but somewhat off interpretation), that Ian Corlett is above all - he blends Schemmel's coarse tones with Masoka's nicely youthful tones for a great blend, while still giving off fervid ranges and waves of emotion.

But in the talks of this, if anything miffs me about the dub VAs, though, it's that many of their emotional ranges are so monotonous and so cut up into "happy, sad, angry, or confused" that it comes off as black-and-white enough to be needlessly like or of a caricature. However, I'd hold fast to the direction being the issue rather than the VAs. Still, Sabat gives Vegeta a much too rough tone, while Drummond is much better in my ears, his voice can be a tad too raspy and high for me. Hence the resulting preference I have of Ryo - he had no issues warming to the role of Vegeta, and manages avoidance of all these erroneous issues while going leaps and bounds ahead in terms of characterization and accentuation just through voicing emotion alone (such as prideful tones, quiet dutifulness and determination, domination, subtleties, royalty, etc).

the predator · 09-21-2008

The japanese one wasn't ideal IMHO but it sorta gave me an idea of who would be the ideal voice actor for Vegeta, I think its that guy who voices Kazuya in Tekken, he seems like he would fit the bill. That's the kind of voice that I would picture Vegeta having.

As for Drummond vs Sabat well in the first stages of DBZ Drummond pwns Sabat, especially 'its over 9000' and 'you'll never escape my wrath' but in the Buu saga he just made me cringe. Sabat is average and Drummond tends to fluctuate but if we go for Drummond's high points I'd say him

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Vegeta (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Vegeta 2.0 Posts: 2,199 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 154	Re: Brian Drummond versus Chris Sabat That what you're looking for, Madness? As for the OT, I prefer Drummond in the beginning until the Frieza or Android Sagas, then I prefer Sabat. __________________

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,539 Rep Power: 195	Re: Brian Drummond versus Chris Sabat I got 10x the emotion from Sabats final explosion than any of the others. __________________ Is Tien fucking strong? Damn right he is. http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/ani...hs-humans.html SSJ3 Gotenks kicks ass btw.

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Super Kaioken (16) Master of Kaio-ken Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Terre Haute, IN Posts: 562 Rep Power: 8	Re: Brian Drummond versus Chris Sabat Yes Sabat really captured vegeta's spirit in that scene

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Cableguy15 (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,259 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 25	Re: Brian Drummond versus Chris Sabat YouTube - DBZ Goku vs Vegeta Ocean pt 2 Drummond owns Sabat in the scream department, no doubt. Chris Sabat sounds awful in the remastered version, but, like everyone keeps saying, he's good later on, especially in the Cell saga. __________________ Cableguy's Power Levels: Saiyan Saga Cableguy's Power Levels: Namek Cableguy's Power Levels: Freeza Saga

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,539 Rep Power: 195	Re: Brian Drummond versus Chris Sabat Why even remaster it then? They should just combine the best actors and do it that way. EG, Funi Roshi>>>>>>>>>>>Ocean Roshi so they use him. Actually, aside from early Vegeta I think Funi>Ocean in most of the voices I've heard. Its probably because I grew up with Funi. __________________ Is Tien fucking strong? Damn right he is. http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/ani...hs-humans.html SSJ3 Gotenks kicks ass btw.

09-20-2008	#26 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,736 Rep Power: 48	Re: Brian Drummond versus Chris Sabat Here's agreeance with Madness. It depends upon which you saw inaugurally, and though the voice acting can dramatically personify a character, what matters more or less is the character itself and less the voice on many accounts. The range and fountain of emotion that goes into the voice (and how it intertwines with the character) is critical - but there tends to be more tiffing over the voice actors than the character. __________________

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,539 Rep Power: 195	Re: Brian Drummond versus Chris Sabat CS sounds absolutely ridiculous in the Saiyan Saga... and dammit, if Goku didn't sound so crap in the japanese one I'd watch it just for Vegeta. The JVA for Vegeta is indeed marvelous. __________________ Is Tien fucking strong? Damn right he is. http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/ani...hs-humans.html SSJ3 Gotenks kicks ass btw.

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Hero (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 3,166 Rep Power: 135	Re: Brian Drummond versus Chris Sabat I saw CS first and I still like Drummond more =/. __________________ Top 5 Manga: 1. Dragon Ball 2. One Piece 3. Hunter x Hunter 4. Vagabond 5. Hikaru No Go Dragon Ball/Z Power Levels

09-21-2008	#30 (permalink)
the predator (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,692 Rep Power: 14	Re: Brian Drummond versus Chris Sabat The japanese one wasn't ideal IMHO but it sorta gave me an idea of who would be the ideal voice actor for Vegeta, I think its that guy who voices Kazuya in Tekken, he seems like he would fit the bill. That's the kind of voice that I would picture Vegeta having. As for Drummond vs Sabat well in the first stages of DBZ Drummond pwns Sabat, especially 'its over 9000' and 'you'll never escape my wrath' but in the Buu saga he just made me cringe. Sabat is average and Drummond tends to fluctuate but if we go for Drummond's high points I'd say him __________________ Sign up for the Official DBZ collaboration Fic here. And read it over here