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Old 09-16-2008   #16 (permalink)
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I guess but we don't know why the attack was so strong, it might just have something special about it like the Kienzan (Destructo Disk) just cuts through stuff, perhaps the Attack has radiation or something.
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Maybe the KiKoHo moves so fast that even though it isn't very powerful, it was able to knock Cell backwards.

Makes a lot of sense IMO.

And no way is Tien even close to 2nd Form Freeza lol. I'd place him at 300k at best.
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Would make more sense it was very strong than very fast from what I've seen of DBZ battles and people getting knocked.

Plus the regular Kikoho VS Nappa burned him but didn't knock him. Wouldn't make sense if its primary function is speed instead of power, because it should have knocked him and not burned him.
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Maybe the Neo KiKoHo is more based on speed than the regular one.
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Then it should have a whole new name. If you had the "Super Strength Attack" and it became fast and weak, you'd call it the "Super Fast Attack" would you not? Not the "New Super Strength Attack"
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Too bad the name Ki Ko Ho doesn't mention strength anywhere in the name =/. Weak argument is weak.

And I never said the attack became weak, just that the momentum of it caused it increase its power dramatically.
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Argument is not weak. Your saying that a variation of an attack would be a massive difference, not just a small change. And would increasing the speed have anything to do with King Kai's training?

But anyway, lets try it again with some names specially designed so you have to answer the question this time. If you invented a variation where the Kamehameha split into two beams, would you call it the double Kamehameha or the new(or 'superior' whichever neo means) Kamehameha. Which name makes more sense
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How the hell do you know he developed it with King Kai?

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Double kamehameha, but the KiKoHo wasn't split into two. There wasn't any noticable physical differences within the KiKoHo, so why does it need a new name? Its still a ki blast cannon, its just that Tien learned to drastically increase its speed.

Anyways, it makes a hell of a lot more sense than a 50x or 10,000x multiplier.
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Hmm, it could work. However since no mention is made of it in the series, I believe it isn't the case.

Especially as that would make the attack 50 or 10,000x faster than Tien.
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Honestly...I think I'm gonna go with *Tien just caught Cell off-guard*.
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Except that only applies to the first one. Shown when Tien hits Cell another 4 times as Cell tries and fails to escape.
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True...maybe Cell was just trying to get out of the hole and chase after A. 18 and not worry about Tien?
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Then he could have tunnelled underground?

But why would he just ignore the Kikoho thats keeping him pinned down? It would be better for him to just blast Tien and go after #18
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I know what I'm saying is maybe he was so obsessed with getting A. 18 he didn't want to let her get away and didn't give a shit about anything but chasing after her.
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