Do you trust Frieza's judgement? - Page 2

Hero · 09-13-2008

Why are you spamming so much shit?

Anyways, I used to believe that he was bluffing and was only 800k, but really that's stupid. He was over a million.

(Such vulgar language isn't good for necessity, and all it does is successfully rile up members into some fantastic flamewars. Don't plug at this demeanor, much less continue it, the next time you post. --LegendarySSJ7)

SSJ4 Vegito · 09-13-2008

Yes, I trust his judgment. It was really the author telling us that he was over 1,000,000

**LegendarySSJ7** · 09-13-2008

Not everything Freeza says is a load of crock, it just depends upon his attitude and the dialogue structure. When Freeza first went on to give the Zet Senshi the display of power that was his 1st transformation (or 2nd form or 2nd suppression), he had no reason to hide given that he had complete superiority over everyone at that point. So yes, he was over 1,000,000. Otherwise, such wouldn't be expressly stated by Toriyama.

Now, by the time he reaches 100% of his organic threshold? He's sweating fumbled words and fuming with many trepidations. He's losing rein of himself. He's on the train to screwsdville. By that point, what he says may be hyperbolic in nature. The same goes for when he returns as his Mecha self - all he did was pretty much openly concede defeat by having his life prolonged. So, early on - I would say what he says is valid. Later on - not so much... much moreso overweening by nature.

Dupe of USSJed · 09-14-2008

One glaring lack of judgement, is Mecha Frieza saying he is now strong enough to defeat Goku, but then Trunks who is apparantly the same power as that Goku he fought beat the crap out of him.

gojirason · 09-14-2008

I think he knows when he's hit 1,000,000. He clearly has control over what exact percentage of power he's using.

Evil Vegeta · 09-14-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

One glaring lack of judgement, is Mecha Frieza saying he is now strong enough to defeat Goku, but then Trunks who is apparantly the same power as that Goku he fought beat the crap out of him.

Trunks didn't "beat the crap" out of anyone. He diverted Freeza with a Burning Attack, and sliced him in two. Freeza didn't even power-up, even though he would've still lost the battle.

Dupe of USSJed · 09-14-2008

Lol, got me on a technicality. He still got killed by someone the same power as Goku, don't know why he wouldn't power up against such a powerful foe.

Evil Vegeta · 09-14-2008

I don't think he was really the same power, since I think Gohan was referring to the SSJ chi or energy.

Deep Thought · 09-14-2008

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Originally Posted by USSJed

Lol, got me on a technicality. He still got killed by someone the same power as Goku, don't know why he wouldn't power up against such a powerful foe.

Evil Vegeta pretty much said why. When Trunks transformed, Freeza was too scared to think straight when he fired that blast, after that, Trunks didn't give him enough time to do anything.

On topic, as everyone else has said, you're overanalyzing it. In fact, recently, I've noticed that this forum overanalyzes stuff about DBZ way too much. It's not like Akira intended Dragon Ball to be an extremely complicated equation or something, designed to be analyzed throughly. Of course, I'm not one to talk, but still.

Hero · 09-14-2008

Of course we over analyze it. If we didn't there'd be nothing to talk about.

~~Metallic Rilldo~~ · 09-14-2008

um... i trust his judgment because, well
1) we have nothing to judge his power
2) the writers wrote that

Super Cool · 09-14-2008

Frieza knew how much power he had. He knew his first form had 500,000(a little more than that but you get the pic) so he knew his second form doubled his PL so obviously he knew he'd be at 1,000,000

Madness · 09-14-2008

He wouldn't know his second form doubled his power unless it had been measured; Freeza cannot sense ki. Your point is void.

Super Cool · 09-14-2008

He controls how much % of his power he unleashes so I'd be logical that he knows how much he's increasing his power by.

Evil Vegeta · 09-14-2008

Yeah, he can't sense chi, but he knows when he's using 50% or 70% of his power, so he knows his inner power. I don't think he knows an exact doubling of his power, though.

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Hero (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 3,166 Rep Power: 135	Re: Do you trust Frieza's judgement? Why are you spamming so much shit? Anyways, I used to believe that he was bluffing and was only 800k, but really that's stupid. He was over a million. (Such vulgar language isn't good for necessity, and all it does is successfully rile up members into some fantastic flamewars. Don't plug at this demeanor, much less continue it, the next time you post. --LegendarySSJ7) __________________ Top 5 Manga: 1. Dragon Ball 2. One Piece 3. Hunter x Hunter 4. Vagabond 5. Hikaru No Go Dragon Ball/Z Power Levels Last edited by LegendarySSJ7; 09-13-2008 at 07:11 PM.

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SSJ4 Vegito (25) Kami of Earth Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,433 Rep Power: 134	Re: Do you trust Frieza's judgement? Yes, I trust his judgment. It was really the author telling us that he was over 1,000,000 __________________ 90% of DragonBall fans detest DragonBall GT If you're one of the 10% of fans who actually like GT, post this in your signature. "If everything God did made sense he wouldn't be 'God" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4afhQK_sXgQ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAi7ZDY2q4s- Dead sea scrolls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU_rTX23V7Q for fellow Christians

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LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,736 Rep Power: 48	Re: Do you trust Frieza's judgement? Not everything Freeza says is a load of crock, it just depends upon his attitude and the dialogue structure. When Freeza first went on to give the Zet Senshi the display of power that was his 1st transformation (or 2nd form or 2nd suppression), he had no reason to hide given that he had complete superiority over everyone at that point. So yes, he was over 1,000,000. Otherwise, such wouldn't be expressly stated by Toriyama. Now, by the time he reaches 100% of his organic threshold? He's sweating fumbled words and fuming with many trepidations. He's losing rein of himself. He's on the train to screwsdville. By that point, what he says may be hyperbolic in nature. The same goes for when he returns as his Mecha self - all he did was pretty much openly concede defeat by having his life prolonged. So, early on - I would say what he says is valid. Later on - not so much... much moreso overweening by nature. __________________

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,539 Rep Power: 195	Re: Do you trust Frieza's judgement? One glaring lack of judgement, is Mecha Frieza saying he is now strong enough to defeat Goku, but then Trunks who is apparantly the same power as that Goku he fought beat the crap out of him. __________________ Is Tien fucking strong? Damn right he is. http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/ani...hs-humans.html SSJ3 Gotenks kicks ass btw.

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gojirason (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 921 Rep Power: 25	Re: Do you trust Frieza's judgement? I think he knows when he's hit 1,000,000. He clearly has control over what exact percentage of power he's using.

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Dupe of USSJed (28) Lord of Worlds Join Date: May 2008 Location: drawing. Im kinda the best drawer in my class , not to brag or anything Posts: 7,539 Rep Power: 195	Re: Do you trust Frieza's judgement? Lol, got me on a technicality. He still got killed by someone the same power as Goku, don't know why he wouldn't power up against such a powerful foe. __________________ Is Tien fucking strong? Damn right he is. http://anime.myfavoritegames.com/ani...hs-humans.html SSJ3 Gotenks kicks ass btw.

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Hero (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 3,166 Rep Power: 135	Re: Do you trust Frieza's judgement? Of course we over analyze it. If we didn't there'd be nothing to talk about. __________________ Top 5 Manga: 1. Dragon Ball 2. One Piece 3. Hunter x Hunter 4. Vagabond 5. Hikaru No Go Dragon Ball/Z Power Levels

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~~Metallic Rilldo~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: your closet O.O Posts: 3,240 Blog Entries: 13 Rep Power: 0	Re: Do you trust Frieza's judgement? um... i trust his judgment because, well 1) we have nothing to judge his power 2) the writers wrote that

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Super Cool Naruto Ranked (26) Shichibi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SuperCoolsville Posts: 5,047 Rep Power: 30	Re: Do you trust Frieza's judgement? Frieza knew how much power he had. He knew his first form had 500,000(a little more than that but you get the pic) so he knew his second form doubled his PL so obviously he knew he'd be at 1,000,000 __________________

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Super Cool Naruto Ranked (26) Shichibi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SuperCoolsville Posts: 5,047 Rep Power: 30	Re: Do you trust Frieza's judgement? He controls how much % of his power he unleashes so I'd be logical that he knows how much he's increasing his power by. __________________