Proof that Base Level Saiya-jin are in the 100 millions - Page 2

the predator · 09-05-2008

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Originally Posted by SSJ4 Vegito

Well I don't have 100% irefutable proof but I do have something. Yakon's Kiri level was 800 killas, and SSJ Goku's was 3,000 and Yakon was on-par with Base Goku. Also Supreme Kai didn't think too much of Freeza. He did think something of PuiPui though. Now he can sense PLs proved in Volume 24 when he sensed SSJ3 Goku's Chi from the planet and when he sensed Gohan's SSJ2 Power. Now yes, he might not have known Base Vegeta's strength but the scouters on planet namek didn't know Goku's Power, Piccolo also explains to Dr. Gero that they can amplify their Ki for a burst. Kaioshin when he saw Vegeta beat PuiPui he simply said he never thought they would be that strong, not "Oh, that guy was weak". This also fits with the Kiri stuff as mentioned. Plus when Goten & Trunks power up to their maximum Chi, Piccolo was slightly blown back by their combined aura and Base Goku wasn't so that might count for something.

You've provided the best argument thus far.

I think those 'kilas' thing were not based on the same principles as PLs but anyways Goku's SSJ form was 3000 killas, his base form wasn't calculated and if the decreasing SSJ multiplier theory does not apply than Goku's base form would be much weaker than his SSJ form.

The base form Goku vs Yakon didn't take too long so I won't take that into account.

He knew of Gohan, Goku and Vegeta but I think he overestimated the Majin magic of Babidi's

Meh so its still really a matter of opinion. Good evidence though. You're repped!

saiyanlink88 · 09-05-2008

responding to one of the first statements. Trunks power level of 5? When someone had advanced control over their power they could control how much was being emitted. I highly highly doubt Trunks was really just a power level of 5 before he went super saiyan and killed frieza. Dont you think it is more likely that Trunks was capable of controlling his power level like the others? seeing as he was actually able to hit super saiyan?
Also i def believe their base power levels can change. Super saiyan goten and kid trunks are no where near as powerful as super saiyan goku or vegeta. Super saiyan is an extreme boost of the base power level. It magnifies whatever the base power level is.

Remixxx · 09-05-2008

The kiri meters cant be taken as a proof .......since it questionabel if Goku was using his full power when he turned into his SSJ or just used a fraction that calculated 3000...It more likelly that he used a fraction just to show him that he can se him in dark since Base Goku was more then enough to beat Yakon in my opinion.

saiyanlink88 · 09-05-2008

Yeah i definitely think that sounds a little more accurate. Until Dabura Babidi's whole crew was a big joke.

09-05-2008	#17 (permalink)
saiyanlink88 (1) Earthling Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Re: Proof that Base Level Saiya-jin are in the 100 millions responding to one of the first statements. Trunks power level of 5? When someone had advanced control over their power they could control how much was being emitted. I highly highly doubt Trunks was really just a power level of 5 before he went super saiyan and killed frieza. Dont you think it is more likely that Trunks was capable of controlling his power level like the others? seeing as he was actually able to hit super saiyan? Also i def believe their base power levels can change. Super saiyan goten and kid trunks are no where near as powerful as super saiyan goku or vegeta. Super saiyan is an extreme boost of the base power level. It magnifies whatever the base power level is.

09-05-2008	#18 (permalink)
Remixxx (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Neptune Posts: 3,448 Rep Power: 70	Re: Proof that Base Level Saiya-jin are in the 100 millions The kiri meters cant be taken as a proof .......since it questionabel if Goku was using his full power when he turned into his SSJ or just used a fraction that calculated 3000...It more likelly that he used a fraction just to show him that he can se him in dark since Base Goku was more then enough to beat Yakon in my opinion. __________________

09-05-2008	#19 (permalink)
saiyanlink88 (1) Earthling Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Re: Proof that Base Level Saiya-jin are in the 100 millions Yeah i definitely think that sounds a little more accurate. Until Dabura Babidi's whole crew was a big joke.