Freeza's power against Goku (warming up)

~~JC#1~~ · 07-22-2008

It was a dub line that Freeza used 1% full power against Goku at first, so how much power do you think he was REALLY using??? I think the Daizenshuu MIGHT say 30% but I can't remember for sure. The answer to this, and to how much power Goku was holding back will give us Goku's SS multiplier against Freeza for the 1st time so please help me out.

Devilz · 07-22-2008

You don't really understand the fight...

He's using about 2%.

gogeta is # 1 · 07-22-2008

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It was a dub line that Freeza used 1% full power against Goku at first, so how much power do you think he was REALLY using??? I think the Daizenshuu MIGHT say 30% but I can't remember for sure. The answer to this, and to how much power Goku was holding back will give us Goku's SS multiplier against Freeza for the 1st time so please help me out.

Are you serious? Lol.
It's not 1%, it was 30% as you thought.

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The answer to this, and to how much power Goku was holding back will give us Goku's SS multiplier against Freeza for the 1st time so please help me out.

50x multiplier in the Daizenshuu.

Tyrant · 07-22-2008

4,000,000 / 140,000,000 X 100 = 2%

Devilz is correct.

Evil Vegeta · 07-22-2008

It had to have been around 2% or a bit more. If many think Freeza is around 2,500,000 in his previous form, and his transformation is around 3,500,000 then he couldn't have been far from it.

~~JC#1~~ · 07-22-2008

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Originally Posted by gogeta is # 1

Are you serious? Lol.
It's not 1%, it was 30% as you thought.

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50x multiplier in the Daizenshuu.

I said "it was a dub line" which means I didn't think it was 1%. So Daizenshuu says 30%, I'm wondering what it REALLY is because Daizenshuu isn't 100% correct, it can be wrong sometimes...Well, a lot of times...
And, btw, you should make the connection that when I say Daizenshuu is wrong it could likely be wrong about 50x too.

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Originally Posted by Devilz

You don't really understand the fight...

He's using about 2%.

What don't I understand about the fight?

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Originally Posted by Frieza the Tyrant

4,000,000 / 140,000,000 X 100 = 2%

Devilz is correct.

Where are those numbers from???

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

It had to have been around 2% or a bit more. If many think Freeza is around 2,500,000 in his previous form, and his transformation is around 3,500,000 then he couldn't have been far from it.

I didn't really understand it...Do you mean he was 3,500,000 when he was warming up or with 100% or what???

Evil Vegeta · 07-22-2008

I was referring to his warming up level.

~~JC#1~~ · 07-22-2008

Oh, great. So do we all agree on around 2%???

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 07-22-2008

The only levels given for Freeza in the Daizenshuu are 50%: 60,000,000 and 100%: 120,000,000.

~~JC#1~~ · 07-22-2008

Oh...Well whatever, WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE DIZENSHUU!!!???

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 07-22-2008

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Originally Posted by JC#1

I think the Daizenshuu MIGHT say 30% but I can't remember for sure.

Yeah...

~~JC#1~~ · 07-22-2008

I commented about it once and people act like its a major point in the topic.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 07-22-2008

Do you always have to be stupid about everything?

No one had corrected you yet. Did I commit a crime?

~~JC#1~~ · 07-22-2008

I'm not saying just you correcting me, I'm just saying that 2/5 of everyone who's replied talks about the Daizenshuu.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 07-22-2008

I'd say rigidly about 2.1%-2.3%. Freeza seemed rather pompous, serene, and presumptuous because he was a healthy divide from where he could have been, so he took the uppity route (he probably could have reflected upon his strategy and himself more, something he didn't seem to want to do, an application of said presumptuousness). Freeza goes 50% and his attacks become so powerful that he knocks Goku out of his Kaio-ken x10 state with a single tremendous punch he isn't even putting effort into. It takes a Kaio-ken x20 fueled Kamehamha to do anything to Freeza at 50%, and then he doubles his power (reaching his organic threshold) and is only slightly edged out by Super Saiyan Son Goku later on (notice the modern relation of relative power? this goes on for the rest of the series, more or less, sort of doing away with the notion of 'modern').

Oh, and please down down the adverseness. There's no one reason to be calling one to the other 'stupid'.

07-22-2008	#1 (permalink)
~~JC#1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,806 Rep Power: 0	Freeza's power against Goku (warming up) It was a dub line that Freeza used 1% full power against Goku at first, so how much power do you think he was REALLY using??? I think the Daizenshuu MIGHT say 30% but I can't remember for sure. The answer to this, and to how much power Goku was holding back will give us Goku's SS multiplier against Freeza for the 1st time so please help me out.

07-22-2008	#4 (permalink)
Tyrant (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,224 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 337	Re: Freeza's power against Goku (warming up) 4,000,000 / 140,000,000 X 100 = 2% Devilz is correct.

07-22-2008	#8 (permalink)
~~JC#1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,806 Rep Power: 0	Re: Freeza's power against Goku (warming up) Oh, great. So do we all agree on around 2%???

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Chibi Mystic Gohan (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 5,448 Rep Power: 145	Re: Freeza's power against Goku (warming up) The only levels given for Freeza in the Daizenshuu are 50%: 60,000,000 and 100%: 120,000,000. __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*

07-22-2008	#10 (permalink)
~~JC#1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,806 Rep Power: 0	Re: Freeza's power against Goku (warming up) Oh...Well whatever, WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE DIZENSHUU!!!???

07-22-2008	#12 (permalink)
~~JC#1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,806 Rep Power: 0	Re: Freeza's power against Goku (warming up) I commented about it once and people act like its a major point in the topic.

07-22-2008	#13 (permalink)
Chibi Mystic Gohan (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surrounded by dickgirls Posts: 5,448 Rep Power: 145	Re: Freeza's power against Goku (warming up) Do you always have to be stupid about everything? No one had corrected you yet. Did I commit a crime? __________________ "Words don't exist so that we can tell the truth; they exist so that we can conceal the truth" - ZOMBIEPOWDER.* Volume 02*

07-22-2008	#14 (permalink)
~~JC#1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,806 Rep Power: 0	Re: Freeza's power against Goku (warming up) I'm not saying just you correcting me, I'm just saying that 2/5 of everyone who's replied talks about the Daizenshuu.

07-22-2008	#15 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,746 Rep Power: 49	Re: Freeza's power against Goku (warming up) I'd say rigidly about 2.1%-2.3%. Freeza seemed rather pompous, serene, and presumptuous because he was a healthy divide from where he could have been, so he took the uppity route (he probably could have reflected upon his strategy and himself more, something he didn't seem to want to do, an application of said presumptuousness). Freeza goes 50% and his attacks become so powerful that he knocks Goku out of his Kaio-ken x10 state with a single tremendous punch he isn't even putting effort into. It takes a Kaio-ken x20 fueled Kamehamha to do anything to Freeza at 50%, and then he doubles his power (reaching his organic threshold) and is only slightly edged out by Super Saiyan Son Goku later on (notice the modern relation of relative power? this goes on for the rest of the series, more or less, sort of doing away with the notion of 'modern'). Oh, and please down down the adverseness. There's no one reason to be calling one to the other 'stupid'. __________________