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Old 07-22-2008   #31 (permalink)
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just that the Saiba monsters were, and that they were "equal" to Raditz
That somehow makes Raditz stronger than them?
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Eh, I'm not gonna rage and rant here, but like I said, a difference of twenty for guys in the thousands is more or less equal, is all I'm saying. I've got not that much interest in PL evaluation, let alone startin' mine or getting into some fervid debate, just sayin'..

Plus, Saibamen can shoot acid outta their heads and buzurn Raditz if they wanted. :D
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Yep, it didn't take too long for me to make yet another one, but this time it's with a twist! *GASP* These ones come with manga scans and power levels to go with them. Kind of like Daizenshuu #7, except not crappy.... Hopefully. So here it is, let me know what you think:

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Raditz Arrives
wasn't Raditz's pl in the original japanese manga stated to be exactly 1,200?

Preparing For The Saiyans


Why didn't Goku get a zenkai? And wouldn't Gohan (oozaru) be 13,500 with a 10x multiplier???
The Saiyans Arrive

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The Fight Against Nappa

I'm not sure, but I think Goku was stated (again, only in the original japanese manga) to be exactly 8,000, which would change Nappa's power level and the kaioken's power level.

Goku Vs. Vegeta
Once again, I think, original japanese manga, blah blah. This time it was Vegeta at 18,000.

I only did up to the Saiyan saga because I wasn't sure if it'd be well recieved or not, so be sure to let me know what you think... Or if you think there are any mistakes.

-Credit to Zer0 for the idea (Bleach Power Levels).
-Credit to Devilz for helping me out with the software used to do this.
My opinions are there. Other than those, GREAT FRIGGIN WORK! I've never seen a pl list so organized and accurate before!
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Nice list. Although I don't think Piccolo would lose that much from losing an arm.
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Good list..... SCORPION*stomps you*
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Goku, Kamehameha 416-924 =2.2x increase
Piccolo, Hell Dagger Implosion(of doom) 322-322? =0x increase?

Edit: Remember Raditz>>>Piccolo, so Piccolo would fire at full power, not some pathetic ass attack
I'm pretty sure Piccolo's attack was just a run of the mill ki blast.

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Let me ask you something:

Vegeta can spam six blasts with pl of 18,000.

If he gathered all six into one, would that make an attack of 108,000?

No. It would still be an attack of 18,000.

The same goes for Krillin, just reverse process.
Not the best example... Because for one thing, Vegeta "Spamming blasts" is doing every one of those blasts at different momments in time (Even if it is really fast), and another thing is that it's directly implied that Krillin's attack decreased in power when it split into 6 attacks. Nappa (And just about everyone for the matter) was originally nervous to get hit by the attack, but then when one of the 6 split attacks hits him it does nothing at all.

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Tien Kikoho level is ok, but Tien injured is too high.

If I remember well he even had troubles with standing, so I think that a level 500 or lower would only suit him.
Originally, he wasn't in too bad of shape, but then Nappa hit him pretty hard to the ground. I figured I'd give him the same decrease as I gave Piccolo when he lost his arm.

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Not to mention that kikoho multiplier is 2x which is lower than Goku's kamehameha level against Raditz, and Roshi said that any Kamehameha is a dog piss compared to power of kikoho.
That's the 22nd tournament's Kamehameha. It's made pretty clear that by the 23rd tournament, Goku's kamehameha had far surpassed Roshi's, and it didn't even drain him.

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Raditz should be at 1200 even.
"Rivaled" doesn't mean "Equal".
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DUDE. I CALLED YOU A SCORPION.

Anyway, how did you make that list? I want to try it out too
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wasn't Raditz's pl in the original japanese manga stated to be exactly 1,200?
Nope, just the cultivars, who were stated to "Rival" raditz in power. I interpretted it as Raditz being a little bit stronger to be honest.

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Why didn't Goku get a zenkai? And wouldn't Gohan (oozaru) be 13,500 with a 10x multiplier???
Zenkai's are Near death Increases, not death increases :P

His emotions weren't really fluctuating when he transformed, so I didn't base it off that level. Though he might have been a little stressed as SSJ4 Vegito pointed out.

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I'm not sure, but I think Goku was stated (again, only in the original japanese manga) to be exactly 8,000, which would change Nappa's power level and the kaioken's power level.
You might be thinking of Daizenshuu #7 here. It's "Over 8,000", as far as I know anyway.

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Once again, I think, original japanese manga, blah blah. This time it was Vegeta at 18,000.
He was stated to have "Barely gotten up to 18,000" while they were talking about him on Namek, but keep in mind they last saw him well before Vegeta goes to earth, so anything over 18,000 is fine since he had been doing planetary assaults.

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My opinions are there. Other than those, GREAT FRIGGIN WORK! I've never seen a pl list so organized and accurate before!
Thanks man, I'm glad to see people like it.

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Nice list. Although I don't think Piccolo would lose that much from losing an arm.
Thanks, and why not?

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damn you scorp
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Zenkai's are Near death Increases, not death increases :P
that's the way it was worded, but really any physical damage to the body causes it, the increase depends on how much damage is done. He wouldn't get the zenkai from dieing necessarily, but he took a lot of abuse just before he died.


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You might be thinking of Daizenshuu #7 here. It's "Over 8,000", as far as I know anyway.
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The Japanese manga does indeed say "over 8000" regarding Goku.

As for Raditz, I still don't agree that he should be stronger. The Saibaimen "rivaling" Raditz was just my personal translation that keeps getting passed around; I thought it sounded spiffy. From Jim Breen's WWWJDIC:

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匹敵 (hitteki)

(n,vs) comparing with; match; rival; equal;

あなたは知力で彼に匹敵している。
You are equal to him in intelligence.
The original line was "pawaa dake nara radittsu to hitteki suru...!!" In English, "In power only, they rival/are equal to/are comparable to Raditz...!!"

I think the point of the line is that they have the same power as Raditz, but Raditz has better technique and skill.
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But Raditz can't explode. :D
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But his brain ain't the size of a grape.
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They seemed to understand when Vegeta told them they better go all-out if they know what's good for them.
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I would hope so, after seeing their buddy get obliterated. >_>
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