Collected cells does not = source of techniques/power.

Kaio · 07-12-2008

Why do people believe this? It's not like Majin Buu absorbing people; Cell's a genetic being created from cell samples. It's not like the machines made clones of their ki levels or something and added it to Cell..

**Majuub** · 07-12-2008

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Originally Posted by Kaio

Why do people believe this? It's not like Majin Buu absorbing people; it's a genetic being created from cell samples. It's not like the machines made clones of their ki levels or something and added it to Cell..

Well, I think Cell knows the Kamehameha...yeah, it's pretty stupid, you're not born with the ability to fire the Kamehameha, you learn it, why would he be inbred with it =/ It's not like height or weight... if anything, the Cells of Muten Roshi should have been added in his data for him to be able to do the kamehameha. It sounds silly but that's how it works, he learns technics because they're in his genes.

Kaio · 07-12-2008

I believe it was stated that their fighting techniques were monitored.

Dupe of USSJed · 07-12-2008

Ever heard of Genetic Memory? It is possible that perhaps some of our memories are retained in our genetic code.

**Darkprince410** · 07-12-2008

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Originally Posted by Kaio

I believe it was stated that their fighting techniques were monitored.

That doesn't explain why Seru used Furiiza's Death Beam when he killed Torunkusu, which Furiiza never used on Earth.

gad_is_here · 07-12-2008

Repped

Madness · 07-12-2008

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Originally Posted by Darkprince410

That doesn't explain why Seru used Furiiza's Death Beam when he killed Torunkusu, which Furiiza never used on Earth.

Ah 'tis a death blow indeed!

The bottom line is, Toriyama twisted scientific law to suit himself. He wants techniques to be passed on in genes? He's got it. Sad but true.

SuperTien · 07-12-2008

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The bottom line is, Toriyama twisted scientific law to suit himself. He wants techniques to be passed on in genes? He's got it. Sad but true.

No this really happens. Not so much in upper being such as humans. (Because we gave this ability up for learning memory).

Small micro-organsims such as cells do carry out actions by genetic memory passed down from parents, or parent cell. Somethings can even be learned and then passed on to the next cell. Often cells pass down what they have aquired, memory, immunities and the such because cells often reproduce asexually. Sperm and egg cells and sex was an adaptation to gain new experiences memories and immunities on a much faster way without the parent cells experienceing it themselves.

Scientists once taught a worm a job, such as moving a small object into a certain place,( I can't remember the full details) But they fed that worm when it died to another worm and the second worm had the memory to do the task, and so did it's offspring.

Also think of reflexes and instincts. They are all caried down genetically. Also all your body's life functions where carried down genetically. Even on a cellular level cells have the memories of the parents cells.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 07-12-2008

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Originally Posted by Darkprince410

That doesn't explain why Seru used Furiiza's Death Beam when he killed Torunkusu, which Furiiza never used on Earth.

Beat me to it, bastard. :D

Yes, they do call it "Freeza's attack" (only, when he was using it earlier in the fight against Gohan).

Kaio · 07-12-2008

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Originally Posted by Darkprince410

That doesn't explain why Seru used Furiiza's Death Beam when he killed Torunkusu, which Furiiza never used on Earth.

How do you know it's Frieza's death beam he used on Trunks? How do you know it's not just a random finger beam or special beam cannon? Or even Tien's dodompa? Maybe Frieza used it against Goku in his time line and it was recorded. What would be the point in mentioning that Dr. Gero monitored their fighting techniques if he intended for Cell to know their techniques through their genes?

Chibi Mystic Gohan · 07-12-2008

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Originally Posted by Kaio

How do you know it's Frieza's death beam he used on Trunks?

"Tha-that's... the attack Freeza used!!"

Evil Vegeta · 07-12-2008

Cell couldn't use Dodonpa because he didn't have Tien's cells. The Androids were only stated to have the battle data, not Cell.

Madness · 07-12-2008

That's a very good point. Cell is from a different timeline, the one where Goku fought Freeza maybe. We have no information on that battle.

Evil Vegeta · 07-12-2008

Also; when Cell fired his Kame beam at Piccolo, he went on to tell him how Gero collected Goku's cell's from when he fought Raditz. Once Piccolo hears this, he says: "No wonder that Kame-Hame-Ha was pathetic!"

If the cell's have no effect on his skills, then Goku's cells back then shouldn't have any effect on the beam being weaker then it should be.

~~JC#1~~ · 07-12-2008

Well its kinda like half-and-half. Tey can't add power from other people, or at least I don't think they do, but Cell instantly learns their techniques. Example, Cell isn't all of their pls added together, but he can still use Goku's Kamehameha without Goku's pl. He does also eminate the specific ki signiture of the character who's techniques he is using, but not the same AMOUNT of ki. Am I making sense?

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~~JC#1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,806 Rep Power: 0	Re: Collected cells does not = source of techniques/power. Well its kinda like half-and-half. Tey can't add power from other people, or at least I don't think they do, but Cell instantly learns their techniques. Example, Cell isn't all of their pls added together, but he can still use Goku's Kamehameha without Goku's pl. He does also eminate the specific ki signiture of the character who's techniques he is using, but not the same AMOUNT of ki. Am I making sense?