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Old 07-15-2008   #31 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what you're getting at besides that Cell merely felt tricked by Piccolo's ability.
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That's the whole point. Cell was tricked into believing Piccolo had no energy to regenerate, and Piccolo even said Cell should've known that's what he was going to do. The Daimao spawning point just eliminates your entire argument of him havin to see them actually do whatever it is for him to learn it.
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No it doesn't? How do you even know Cell's spawning ability came from Daimao? How do you know if it's just his own skill or not? It may be similar to Daimao's ability, but it's also different enough.
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First of all, you constantly answer a question with a question, and it's kinda annoying. It's not his own skill, because his entire being is derived from other beings.

The closest one to spawning anyone was Daimao, or, you could just say nameks in general, even though Piccolo never did such. He created several little Cell's in a matter of seconds with tremendous power, and no one, other then Daimao, has did anything even close to that. There's nothin, and I mean nothin, that even says Gero's recorded data was used with Cell, only the Androids, who were entirely different.

According to you, you believe Cell was surprised by Piccolo's regeneration because he likely never saw it. Well, if you're a firm believer (which I think you are, since you believe he learned about Kami and the dragon balls through the spy robots) that Gero monitored nearly everything, then he would've saw Piccolo's regeneration twice at least, so there should've been no surprise. That's why that point is useless, and combine that with Piccolo's quote on Cell's Kame beam, and your argument holds no water at all.
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First of all, you constantly answer a question with a question, and it's kinda annoying.
You don't see me pointing out what I find annoying about you, do you? Oh wait, oops, lulz.

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It's not his own skill, because his entire being is derived from other beings.
He can absorb people with his tail. Who other than Cell has that ability? Cell didn't produce offspring from his mouth, but from his tail; they didn't emerge from egg shells either. It's different enough to suspect it being his own skill. There's nothing indicating it was Daimao's ability either; no one to comment or anything like Frieza's attack.

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According to you, you believe Cell was surprised by Piccolo's regeneration because he likely never saw it. Well, if you're a firm believer (which I think you are, since you believe he learned about Kami and the dragon balls through the spy robots) that Gero monitored nearly everything, then he would've saw Piccolo's regeneration twice at least, so there should've been no surprise. That's why that point is useless, and combine that with Piccolo's quote on Cell's Kame beam, and your argument holds no water at all.
Not really; Piccolo's quote makes little sense since he decided to dodge it. And actually, my point of bringing up Cell's surprise to Piccolo's regeneration was to counter your comment on saying he can completely understand everyone's techniques because he has their cells. Piccolo only used his regeneration once on Earth before the android saga, after a major battle, so it's possible that wasn't even picked up since there was no reason to monitor him anymore.
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He can absorb people with his tail. Who other than Cell has that ability? Cell didn't produce offspring from his mouth, but from his tail; they didn't emerge from egg shells either. It's different enough to suspect it being his own skill. There's nothing indicating it was Daimao's ability either; no one to comment or anything like Frieza's attack.
Uh, yeah, it's apart of his structure to absorb people. The computer actually told him to. Besides, who really saw Daimao create any demon warriors? Tien was like the only one, but it still doesn't matter. Besides, nameks were the only ones implied to have that ability, so whatever.

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Not really; Piccolo's quote makes little sense since he decided to dodge it. And actually, my point of bringing up Cell's surprise to Piccolo's regeneration was to counter your comment on saying he can completely understand everyone's techniques because he has their cells. Piccolo only used his regeneration once on Earth before the android saga, after a major battle, so it's possible that wasn't even picked up since there was no reason to monitor him anymore.
Yeah, because Piccolo is really going to stand there and take a beam directly. Also; you're incorrect about Piccolo only using regeneration once, because he used in his battle with Goku in the tourney, and Gero stated that he monitored that battle closely as well. The idea of Cell only knowing how to pull off these attacks through data is stupid, because it destroys the purpose of various cells being assembled for his structure in the first place.
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Genetic make-up for the superior warrior seems like it has a point; things like zenkais and being able to survive in space would make a good warrior.
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